The E. U.

[popestpiusx]

The key here is to properly define "Establishment of Religion". In order to properly define it we must look at how the Framers would have understood that term. How do we do that? The best way is to see how that term was used in 18th Century British Law. That is the legal system the Framers knew and used when writing the Constitution. The best resourse for this is Sir William Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England. Also, we can look at early Supreme Court cases on the subject. We can look at what the practice of the states was on this particular issue. We can also look to the notes from the deliberations between the framers or any legal commentaries from the time.

It is clear, then, that an establishment of religion is a specific religion established (not founded) by, supported financially by, and whose tenets are officially held by and enforced by the state.

The point is that the first amendment is keeping the federal government from messing with state religions. The fed. gov. cannot have an established church, but the individual states can (and many did).

[CatholicCrusader]

[quote name='popestpiusx' date='Nov 25 2004, 09:30 PM'] The key here is to properly define "Establishment of Religion". In order to properly define it we must look at how the Framers would have understood that term. How do we do that? The best way is to see how that term was used in 18th Century British Law. That is the legal system the Framers knew and used when writing the Constitution. The best resourse for this is Sir William Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England. Also, we can look at early Supreme Court cases on the subject. We can look at what the practice of the states was on this particular issue. We can also look to the notes from the deliberations between the framers or any legal commentaries from the time.

It is clear, then, that an establishment of religion is a specific religion established (not founded) by, supported financially by, and whose tenets are officially held by and enforced by the state.

The point is that the first amendment is keeping the federal government from messing with state religions. The fed. gov. cannot have an established church, but the individual states can (and many did). [/quote]
But none of them were ever Catholicism, and it is not possible to justify ever having a State that does not proclaim Catholicism, especially if it is such a one that proclaims error.

[popestpiusx]

Louisiana, if I am not mistaken was a Catholic state for a short time. But this is irrelevant. We are talking about the govenmental structure, not how it was applied, which has been an unmitigated disaster and is getting worse.

[Guest Aluigi]

CatholicCrusader-- use [b]alt[/b] "b/i/u".

[Don John of Austria]

[quote]But none of them were ever Catholicism, and it is not possible to justify ever having a State that does not proclaim Catholicism, especially if it is such a one that proclaims error.
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Maryland was founded as a Catholic colony it was the Puritians from New England who can down and militarly took over.

[popestpiusx]

It was never a Catholic state though. From the time of the Constitution and after, the state religion was officially episcopalian.

Edited November 26, 2004 by popestpiusx

[Don John of Austria]

Oh I know.

[RandomProddy]

[quote name='conservativecatholic' date='Nov 24 2004, 10:15 PM'] The EU is morally wrong and evil. The EU serves as an organization to purge all Europe of its Christian heritage. The EU also serves as an economic and miltary adversary to the US. One of these days, the US will not be the only world power. [/quote]
Not since the new countries joined up and backed up the U.K. and Italy.