IcePrincessKRS Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 How do you know the original is a sexual definition? Also, it's the intention of a word that makes it bad or not. Etymology: Middle English suken, from Old English sucan; akin to Old High German sugan to smell of elderberries, Latin sugere I'll do some more research if I remember tonight. God Bless, Your Servant in Christ, ironmonk I didn't mean original as in ORIGINAL being its first primary definition, I meant original as in its original use as slang. My bad, I guess I should have made that more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 I dunno guys..my fluffy air extractions can be pretty vulgar Well, Steve, if any of us ever meet you, all we'll have to do is make sure you don't eat beans! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 And they said Martin Luther was obsessed with the scatalogical too!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marielapin Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Also, it's the intention of a word that makes it bad or not. Others are not always in tune to your intentions. If you say that word around me, I am going to assume you are referring to it in terms of the sexual reference. That is the way I have always heard it and the fact that I hear the word 20 times a day is not going to soften my mind to another definition. If you really stand behind the "intent" reasoning, do you agree or disagree with this: FCC OKs Bono's F-Word Slip WASHINGTON, Oct. 7,2003 The complaints objected to Bono's uttering the phrase "This is really, really, f------ brilliant." (AP) When it comes to cursing, the government says, it's all in the delivery. That's the view of the Federal Communications Commission in its decision that U2 singer Bono's colorful language during the Golden Globe Awards didn't violate federal indecency rules. The FCC rejected complaints from the Parents Television Council and more than 200 people, most of them associated with the council, who accused dozens of television stations of violating restrictions on obscene broadcasts by airing portions of the awards program last January. The complaints objected to Bono's uttering the phrase "this is really, really, f------ brilliant." The FCC, using the F-word more often to explain its decision than Bono did on the air, said the word "may be crude and offensive, but, in the context presented here, did not describe sexual or excretory organs or activities." That distinction is a key test to measure whether a statement meets a federal standard for broadcast indecency. David Solomon, chief of the FCC's enforcement bureau, said in the ruling that Bono used the vulgarity as an adjective or to emphasize an exclamation and that "the use of specific words, including expletives or other 'four-letter words' does not render material obscene." The Parents Television Council, a Los Angeles-based watchdog group, said Tuesday it would appeal the decision and the FCC is "splitting hairs." "It's not shocking to us on the FCC decision because they're a toothless lion," said Lara Mahaney, director of corporate and entertainment affairs for the council. "They don't take indecency seriously and that's why you see it proliferating on the broadcast airwaves." The FCC rejected the complaints on Friday and announced the decision this week. "We have previously found that fleeting and isolated remarks of this nature do not warrant commission action," Solomon said. © MMIII The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 I do agree... The context was not of a VULGAR nature...More so to show exuberance. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Here's an idea... Read the Sept. 28th Gospel in the Word Up? phorum. (It's Mark 9:38-48) where it talks about better to cut off a foot then have it cause you to sin. If the word is that questionable to others, and you know know it, why should you stubbornly offend others with use of the word? Isn't it better to cut off using that word, then to keep that word and sin occaisionally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 What I find utterly fascinating is that this thread is now 3 pages long. Common sense people: If you don't use it to cause offense, and you are around folks who don't see it as offensive, I don't see the big deal. If you know you are possibly offensive (like Jas says), don't say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkenstein Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Yea this is halarious that this is 3 pages long, I didn't know that you could debate about this word so much....well heres the jist on this word... If saying this word or hearing this word in any way causes you to be dividedfrom God or sin then it is not good. Some people can say or hear the word without any problems while others will have problems, example... person A may go to a party that consists of some immoral and vulger dancing, so when person A sees this dancing person A is excited and the concept of sin enters person A's mind person B may go to the same party that consists of the same dancing, yet when person B sees this dancing person B is not excited and the concept of sin does not enter person B's mind at all person B can handle it but person A cannot.... so if saying the word "smell of elderberries" does not divide you from God then you can use it... but just cause you can use it does not mean you should because here is the big thing.... you can say the word but what if you saying by someone causes them to sin... "Better to have a stone tied around the neck and thrown into the sea then to cause one of these little one to sin"... so do not cause others to sin, which means you can say it but you should not say it around others which will cause them to sin, keep in mind that you never really know when you cause someone to sin so be careful.... shalom ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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