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Ziggamafu

How much have you read of the Church Doctors?  

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Isn't St. Anthony of Padua a Doctor of the Church? I think he is, but the problem is that I have no idea where to find his writings, if any. I assume they'll probably be sermons, since he was perhaps the greatest preacher of his time. Maleus Hereticorum they called him! Hammer of Heretics! We could use someone like him today, eh? Someone who is all over the media basically destroying the lies of Satan that we believe today.... I wonder.

Anyway, has anyone read any St. Anthony of Padua?

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i've never read him; but i'm pretty sure he's not a doctor. i think he does have some other official standing, though...can't remember

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according to the Catholic Sourcebook, there are 33 saints named official doctors of the Church. St. Anthony of Padua is one of them. He is titled the "Evangelical Doctor". as for his writing or preaching, i was unable to find anything online.

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Guest JeffCR07

[quote name='LovingIt!' date='Nov 19 2004, 06:32 PM'] Lot's of "i've read a little" votes (myself included) can someone recommend me a good place to start - what book should I be getting? what website should I be visiting? [/quote]
I suggest reading [i]The Triple Way[/i] by St. Bonaventure. It is short, easy to read, and incredibly beneficial to one's spiritual llife. It is more meditative than it is deeply theological, but it would be imprudent to shrug it off as being of secondary importance simply because of this fact.

If you like that, then I suggest going back to some of the earlier Fathers of the Church who are Doctors. Starting in the beginning will give you a firmer basis for when you read more modern text. I recommend St. Athenasius' [i] On the Incarnation of the Word of God[/i].

Neither are astonishingly long, but both have quite a bit to think about and contemplate. They are more deep than daunting, and thats why I think you should start with them, then move on to more lengthy works.

- Your Brother In Christ, Jeff

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daugher-of-Mary

[quote]Saint Teresa of Avila is amazing!! She's my favorite. I'm currently reading The Life, and I loved The Interior Castle. Check them out if you haven't already. [/quote]

same! :D

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can anyone tell me what "the little flowers of st. francis" is about - i think it's fiction that either st. francis of assisi or his followers wrote...but i'm not sure

p.s. think JP2 will be proclaimed Doctor? ;-)

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[quote name='Ziggamafu' date='Nov 17 2004, 07:11 AM'] My favorite is Francis De Sales. Go, go, Counter-Reformation!!

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Wee, I love St. Francis de Sales, but I may be biased....he's my patron saint.

:D

Me being a convert, I can really relate to his writings. He's on mission to convert people to the Church! Go Francis go!

[quote]p.s. think JP2 will be proclaimed Doctor? ;-) [/quote]
A :sadder: JP2 has to be dead first. I think it is a distinct possibility that he could be declaired a doctor someday. Thats if he's able to pass the canonization process after he passes away. :rolling:

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cmotherofpirl

[quote name='Ziggamafu' date='Dec 13 2004, 09:35 AM'] can anyone tell me what "the little flowers of st. francis" is about - i think it's fiction that either st. francis of assisi or his followers wrote...but i'm not sure

p.s. think JP2 will be proclaimed Doctor? ;-) [/quote]
read it and find out :)

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[quote name='ICTHUS' date='Dec 13 2004, 10:53 AM'] My favorite doctor is St. Augustine. Unfortunately, Roman Catholicism has repudiated his teaching on sacramentology, and grace and free will. [/quote]
wait...doesn't the title "Doctor" mean that everything they wrote is compatible with church teaching - like an ultra-mega nihil obstat?

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argent_paladin

The writings of the Doctors are not necessarily without error:
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05075a.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05075a.htm[/url]

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phatcatholic

[quote name='argent_paladin' date='Mar 6 2005, 06:20 AM'] The writings of the Doctors are not necessarily without error:
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05075a.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05075a.htm[/url] [/quote]
from that article we read the following:[list]To these great names others have subsequently been added. The requisite conditions are enumerated as three: eminens doctrina, insignis vitae sanctitas, Ecclesiae declaratio (i.e. eminent learning, a high degree of sanctity, and proclamation by the Church). Benedict XIV explains the third as a declaration by the supreme pontiff or by a general council. But though general councils have acclaimed the writings of certain Doctors, no council has actually conferred the title of Doctor of the Church. In practice the procedure consists in extending to the universal church the use of the Office and Mass of a saint in which the title of doctor is applied to him. The decree is issued by the Congregation of Sacred Rites and approved by the pope, after a careful examination, if necessary, of the saint's writings. It is not in any way an ex cathedra decision, nor does it even amount to a declaration that no error is to be found in the teaching of the Doctor. It is, indeed, well known that the very greatest of them are not wholly immune from error. No martyr has ever been included in the list, since the Office and the Mass are for Confessors. Hence, as Benedict XIV points out, St. Ignatius, St. Irenaeus, and St. Cyprian are not called Doctors of the Church.
[/list]pretty interesting. another example that proves the point is Aquinas' error regarding the Immaculate Conception

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catholicflower

in the famous words of St Therese "I choose all" I love them all!!

Ziggamafu- the little flowers of St Francis are stories of st francis, not always totally facutal (according to a Franciscan of the primative obseverance priest). They are nice stories though

btw if you want a good book about all of the doctors, there is a book called "33 Doctors of the Church" by Christopher Rengers. It give a good synopsis of all the doctors. It is a ratehr big book though.

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