popestpiusx Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Actually, I was saved just yesterday as the priest said "Ego te Absolvo...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 [quote name='Delivery Boy' date='Nov 20 2004, 04:45 PM'] God is the judge, not one of us can sit here and say who will go to Heaven and who will go to hell. Not one of us has the right to do that. [/quote] I think you will find us in 100% agreement on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Nov 22 2004, 12:09 AM'] Actually, I was saved just yesterday as the priest said "Ego te Absolvo...." [/quote] And maybe, God forbid, you'll need to be saved again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 [quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Nov 21 2004, 11:42 PM'] I think you will find us in 100% agreement on that. [/quote] hey homeschool mom peace n love to you i wasnt tryen to sound mean or arguementive i was jus going off on one of my preacher sermons but ya, i dont like it when people say that "IF YOU DID NOT ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOR YOUR GOING TO HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " hate when i hear that, cuz then your putting yourself in the place of God God will decide who goes to Heaven and who goes to hell And ya'll are some smart catholics im'a dumb catholic ya'll are smart, you spit out some interesting facts much love to ya'll for that peaceeeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 (edited) " Are you saved ? " I do think this can be reply'd to as a yes I see wut ya'll are sayen about how its a daily battle down to the very second BUT I am confident, as long as i keep my faith, MY GOD, will never forsake me so ya, I do think I can confidently say " I Am Saved " I cant speak for everyone, but I know I will never lose faith in my savior Ive been to the point where I lost faith, and the miracles God sent me were so extreme to where I could never doubt his name again.....HE IS LIVEING PRAISE GOD Edited November 22, 2004 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Nov 22 2004, 01:18 AM'] And maybe, God forbid, you'll need to be saved again! [/quote] I would almost gurantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Nov 22 2004, 01:45 PM'] I would almost gurantee it. [/quote] Remember that sanctity is found in penance, not perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 WE haven't changed the Bible, if it hadn't been for the Catholic Church you wouldn't even have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 [quote name='Delivery Boy' date='Nov 22 2004, 01:42 AM'] " Are you saved ? " I do think this can be reply'd to as a yes I see wut ya'll are sayen about how its a daily battle down to the very second BUT I am confident, as long as i keep my faith, MY GOD, will never forsake me so ya, I do think I can confidently say " I Am Saved " I cant speak for everyone, but I know I will never lose faith in my savior Ive been to the point where I lost faith, and the miracles God sent me were so extreme to where I could never doubt his name again.....HE IS LIVEING PRAISE GOD [/quote] amen, because of Jesus, amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 (edited) I am not saved yet, because I am still alive and quite capable of grave mortal sin. I won't know where I'm going until Jesus tells me. Edited November 25, 2004 by cmotherofpirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 [quote name='mulls' date='Nov 25 2004, 12:47 AM'] amen, because of Jesus, amen. [/quote] That's not what Jesus said. There is no assuance of salvation for any man... According to Christ. [b]St. Matt 10:22 [/b] [color=red]You will be hated by all because of my name, but whoever endures to the end will be saved. [/color] We will be saved at the end, if we endure to the end. [b]St. Matt 24:13 [/b] [color=red]But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.[/color] We will be saved at the end, if we persevere to the end. [b]St. Luke 8:13 [/b] [color=red]Those on rocky ground are the ones who, when they hear, receive the word with joy, but they have no root; they believe only for a time and fall away in time of trial.[/color] Some will believe for a while and fall away... How can any man know if he will not fall away until the end? God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 if i can trust Him to save me i can trust Him to keep me.... as i do my part to make my calling and election sure, and to keep my faith alive by good works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 (edited) [quote name='mulls' date='Nov 25 2004, 01:11 AM'] if i can trust Him to save me i can trust Him to keep me.... as i do my part to make my calling and election sure, and to keep my faith alive by good works. [/quote] Those who fall believe the same thing. What makes you different from everyone else who believes that they are "saved" but yet wrong about it? Are you sure that you're 'sure'? What did Jesus say? ...not until the end. Many cry "Lord, Lord" and are not saved. God Bless, ironmonk Edited November 25, 2004 by ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 i dont know, you tell me how they're "wrong about it" i can only takes people's word for it, examining trees by their fruit. im sure about Jesus, thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Some of my experience on the topic of "true faith" for assured salvation... The protestant argument I've heard regarding those who seemingly lose their faith is the following: "They just didn't have a [i]true [/i]faith." Interestingly, the possibility of a person "not having a true faith" is easily entertained by one protestant believer judging another; but it's considered impossible when a protestant thinks about his own faith. I think this relates to the idea of getting rid of the log in one's own eye first. How easy it is to exagerate the faults of others and minimize our own. [b]Examining trees by their fruit.[/b] Regarding the idea of judging another person's faith by fruits, I think it's important to know that we cannot see what God sees. I think that looking for fruits is valid, but we should know our limits in our ability to "examine the tree." A person who appears holy may be submitting to sin in his thoughts. A person who succumbs to visible sins may have a truly penitent heart. God knows. PS--I thought that the following might give believers hope so they do not despair when striving for holiness. Saint Paul writes in his letter to the Romans (3:23), "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." This reminds me to persevere when dealing with my own faults. PPS--I don't presume that I have salvation. But I do have the hope in Jesus Christ that I might receive the grace to remain faithful to Him until I leave this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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