jesussaves Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Praise the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 depends.. i'm saved, but not ETERNALLY saved, you can only be sure of eternal salvation after you persevere to the end and work out your salvation in fear and trembling i won't say "maybe" or "no" because I know for sure, in this moment, I am saved from my past sins. but i won't say "yes" because i have a whole life ahead of me and I can't be arogant and prideful claiming that there's no chance I could end up in hell. can't answer... sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I put maybe, because although I'm currently on my way to being saved, I won't really know for sure until I die... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 yeah, but you're sure you're saved right now (unless you've currently turned away, God forbid!)... you're just not sure of your eternal salvation... there's no reasonable Catholic answer to this poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I have been saved, I am currently being saved, and I hope to be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Dontcha love "false dichotomy" type questions? "Hey John, are you a girl or a woman?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 amen Dave I have been saved [i]Rom. 8:24; Eph. 2:5,8; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:5[/i] I am being saved [i]1 Cor. 1:18; 2 Cor. 2:15; Phil. 2:12; 1 Peter 1:9[/i] I will be saved in the end <if I persevere and work out my salvation in fear and trembling> [i]Matt. 10:22, 24:13; Mark 13:13; Mark 16:16; Acts 15:11; Rom. 5:9-10; Rom. 13:11; 1 Cor. 3:15; 1 Cor. 5:5; 2 Tim. 2:11-12; Heb. 9:28; James 5:15 [/i] that's the only Biblical perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I voted [url="http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=23976&st=0entry420410"]YesNoI don't know[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesussaves Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 (edited) [quote]yes, i'm saved no, i'm not sure of my eternal salvation maybe i'll be saved in the end if i endure![/quote] You are playing with words. Jesus only saves those who have faith in Him. Unless you repent, I am sorry for your impending damnation. Edited November 17, 2004 by jesussaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 i have faith in Him. I also believe in the Bible and His Church. that's why I work out my salvation in fear and trembling (like the Bible commands us to) and resolve to persevere to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesussaves Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 "fear and trembling" Fear here means to respect and trembling means to do so with awe. You do not only tremble when you are afraid. Please, for your very immortal soul, convert. Ask more questions and the Spirit will guide you. Remember, ask and ye shall receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 (edited) i know what fear and trembing is. i'm touched that you're concerned, but I am in the Universal Christian Church. You're the one that should convert . anyway, the Christian life is a constant conversion, deeper and deeper into the Truth of Christ. i'm constantly repenting of my sins and keeping my eyes towards Christ. when I look away, i tend to immediately repent. Edited November 17, 2004 by Aluigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 [quote name='jesussaves' date='Nov 16 2004, 08:51 PM'] "fear and trembling" Fear here means to respect and trembling means to do so with awe. You do not only tremble when you are afraid. Please, for your very immortal soul, convert. Ask more questions and the Spirit will guide you. Remember, ask and ye shall receive. [/quote] How does the definition of "fear and trembling" contradict the Catholic position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 [quote name='jesussaves' date='Nov 16 2004, 07:43 PM'] You are playing with words. Jesus only saves those who have faith in Him. Unless you repent, I am sorry for your impending damnation. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesussaves Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 (edited) [quote]yes, i'm saved no, i'm not sure of my eternal salvation[/quote] When Jesus saves, he saves for good. All that other being saved but not eternally stuff is just nonsense. Again, you are playing with words. I have a feeling that you realize what I mean when I ask are you saved, but you do not want to face the truth of your lie. I am asking are you eternally saved? Edited November 17, 2004 by jesussaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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