drewmeister2 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Does the Eastern Rite ever use the Liturgy of St. Basil the Great? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daugher-of-Mary Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 d.o.m, do you have a document or article that we can read which affirms your answer here? i would just like it for my own learning. thanks, nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 How about here Nick [url="http://www.melkite.org/Liturgy.html"]http://www.melkite.org/Liturgy.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Liturgy of Saint Basil a eucharistic service used by Eastern Orthodox and Eastern-rite Catholic churches 10 times during the year: January 1 (the feast of St. Basil), the first five Sundays in Lent, Holy Thursday, Holy Saturday, Christmas Eve, and the Eve of the Epiphany (unless Christmas or the Epiphany falls on Sunday or Monday). [url="http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9013616"]http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9013616[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 (edited) Partial list of liturgical churches and examples of liturgies (past and present) * Roman Catholic church (churches in communion with the Holy See) [b] * Latin Rite [/b] * Novus Ordo Missae * Tridentine Mass * Anglican Use * Mozarabic Rite * Ambrosian Rite [b] * Eastern Rite, e.g.: [/b] * Eparchy of Krizevci * Ruthenian Catholic Church * Liturgy of St. Mark * Liturgy of St. James * Liturgy of St. Basil [b] * Eastern Orthodox church [/b] * "Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom" * "Divine Liturgy of St. Basil the Great" * Oriental (i.e., non-Chalcedonian) Orthodox churches * Some Anglican churches * Church of England * "Exhortation and Litany (1544)" * Some Lutheran churches * Evangelical Lutheran Church in America * Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod [url="http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/liturgy"]http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/liturgy[/url] Edited November 16, 2004 by StColette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The Divine Liturgy of St. Basil The Liturgy of St. Basil follows the same structural form as that of St. John Chrysostom and the other West Syrian liturgical rites. It differs only in the prayers of the priest, and is characterized by a much more extensive Biblical imagery. Many of the liturgical modifications of the fourth and fifth centuries were introduced in the East, and then were adopted in the Western Church. The battle against the major heresies was principally fought in the East, so it is not surprising to see the results appear in the Eastern rites. It is curious, however, that many of them (the Monogenes hymn, the Trinitarian structure of the prayers, etc.) were not adopted in the West. Notwithstanding this, a scholar like Fr. Bouyer can say: "We will not deny that the West Syrian eucharist can be considered ideal, at least in the sense that nowhere else has the whole traditional content of the Christian eucharist been expressed with such fullness and in such a satisfying framework?There is no question of shedding doubt upon the legitimacy or even the excellence of the theology of the Greek Fathers of the fourth Century." [url="http://www.liturgica.com/html/litEOLitEarly.jsp?hostname=null#Basil"]http://www.liturgica.com/html/litEOLitEarl...name=null#Basil[/url] ROFL I think I got carried away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 that's awesome jennie! i love how u get carried away w/ research like i do! its all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 [quote name='phatcatholic' date='Nov 16 2004, 01:43 AM'] that's awesome jennie! i love how u get carried away w/ research like i do! its all good [/quote] lol I love research lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmeister2 Posted November 16, 2004 Author Share Posted November 16, 2004 Thanks, everyone, especially St. Colette! Just a question: On the link to the Melkite website, why does it say under "Greek": "These Catholic people strictly retain all their ancient rites, as an invaluable treasure brought down since the period of the Apostles. They have three patriarchate Sees, kept respectively at Antioch, Alexandria and Jerusalem"? I thought the Eastern Catholics followed the Pope only, not the patriarchs? Could someone explain? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 This may help [url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11549a.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11549a.htm[/url] It talks about the Patriarch and Patriarchate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Drew, while the following answer is certainly not as in-depth as the catholic-encyclopedia entry, I hope it will help by providing a minimalistic response: It would be wrong to say that [i]any[/i] catholic "followed the Pope only." If I were to ask you whether or not you follow your bishop, who is the administrative and directly spiritual leader of your diocese, I should hope that the answer is yes. Moreover, if I were to ask you whether you follow your archbishop or cardinal, I should hope for the same answer. But I should also hope that you follow the Pope as well. The key is that the two are not mutually exclusive. The reason for this is because the bishops, archbishops, cardinals, and patriarchs are all [u]in communion with[/u] the Holy Father. As such, they acknowledge his special calling as the Vicar of Christ and the Servant of the Servants of God and they submit to his special authority. - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I'm finding this topic very interesting Learning lots about the Eastern Rite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I love learning about the other Rites (even the ones that are Western), it really brings the universality of the Church into frontal view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 [quote name='JeffCR07' date='Nov 16 2004, 10:37 PM'] I love learning about the other Rites (even the ones that are Western), it really brings the universality of the Church into frontal view [/quote] I definitely need to learn more about the different Rites it'll give me something new to study hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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