Paladin D Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I was thinking on this, and not everyone in the Northeast votes Democrat (look at Pennsylvania and New Jersey). But it still boggled my mind [b]why[/b] the Northeast tends to vote Democrat, most likely it's due to the fact it has a large Catholic population (in such a small geographical location). But why do such Catholics vote Democrat? I thought of one reason (besides cafeteria Catholics or non-practicing Catholics), but I'm not exactly sure if this is the primary one. The Democrat party of today is not the party it was 50-60 years ago. From what I understand, the Democrat party used to be more conservative when it came to moral issues. The party was Catholic friendly, and not such an extreme liberal party as it is today. Most Catholics were Democrats, it was a good choice to be back then! Unfortunately since the Democrat party has changed into an extreme liberal party, it isn't safe to be a devout Catholic while supporting a party that requires it's politicans to support abortion (and other things). The Republican party gives more leeway for their politicans, that is why you can lean a little liberal and be Republican - such as Schwarzenegger, McCain, and Guiliani. It's very difficult to lean conservative in the Democrat party however. You have Catholics living in the Northeast who grew up voting Democrat, holding a personal allegiance to a party they grew up with. Many of the older Catholics have a difficult time switching parties due to this fact. The Democrat party went from a party that was Catholic-friendly and conservative on moral issues, to being a haven for cafeteria Catholics and liberal on moral issues. If the Democrats were to allow conservative politicans into their party, and were to return to be conservative on these moral issues (such as abortion, fetal stem cell research, etc), I would have [b]a ton more[/b] respect for the Democrat party. The Republican party ain't perfect, but considering they tend to lean conservative on moral issues... I have no other choice. Because of this, Catholics are split almost 50/50 between the two parties. Another major reason: Poor catechis and confusion during Vatican II in the 1960's and 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly_freak Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 because the heat doesn't fry our brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 Some convincing proof to my theory: [url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5651976/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5651976/[/url] Last I remember, Catholics make up over 50% of the population of Rhode Island (more than other state). Yet, look at their votes... [i][b][color=blue]John F. Kerry (DEM) 247,071 60% [/color] [color=red]George W. Bush (REP)* 161,345 39% [/color] [color=green]Ralph Nader (IND) 3,976 1%[/color][/b][/i] ... says a lot doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='shelly_freak' date='Nov 3 2004, 02:47 PM'] because the heat doesn't fry our brains [/quote] umm a little uncalled for Shelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='shelly_freak' date='Nov 3 2004, 03:47 PM'] because the heat doesn't fry our brains [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azaelia Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 That's exactly why, Dallas. I know from experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='shelly_freak' date='Nov 3 2004, 03:47 PM'] because the heat doesn't fry our brains [/quote] ... or the cold freezes your brains. I'm from the Northeast, and I leaned Republican. All I'm saying is: If the Democrat party were to lean more conservative on moral issues, they would get a lot more respect from me... and maybe my vote (depending on the canidates). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azaelia Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='shelly_freak' date='Nov 3 2004, 03:47 PM'] because the heat doesn't fry our brains [/quote] I'm from the Northeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Okay kids let's not get into a name calling fight or anything like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Nov 3 2004, 03:54 PM'] Okay kids let's not get into a name calling fight or anything like that [/quote] Yes mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly_freak Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Nov 3 2004, 02:51 PM'] umm a little uncalled for Shelly [/quote] sorry just venting, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='Paladin D' date='Nov 3 2004, 02:55 PM'] Yes mom. [/quote] good boy *pats Dallas on top of the head and gives him a cookie* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='shelly_freak' date='Nov 3 2004, 02:56 PM'] sorry just venting, lol [/quote] It's okay forgiven and forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Nov 3 2004, 03:56 PM'] good boy *pats Dallas on top of the head and gives him a cookie* [/quote] Hmmm... *sees what Dallas gets* Mom? hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Nov 3 2004, 02:58 PM'] Hmmm... *sees what Dallas gets* Mom? hmmm... [/quote] *hands Micah a smelly fish* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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