A Nation Divided

[Lounge Daddy]

[font="Courier"]Bush just blows the liberal’s minds
They are young naive and hold a misplaced idealism
Bush won with a higher than average registered voter turnout and Bush won a popular vote of more than 58,390,139 … this is huge – this is bigger than Reagan!

2004: Bush 58,390,139 (current, from CNN)
2000: Gore 50,996,582
1996: Clinton 45,590,703*
1992: Clinton 44,908,254*
1988: Bush 47,946,000
1984: Reagan 54,455,000
1980: Reagan 43,901,812
*Not a majority of the vote

So what is this “nation divided” line that the liberals are trying to feed us? Was Clinton told he needed to “reach across the isle”?
We are not a nation divided and the Liberals cannot handle the will of the people – that’s why the Libs are going to take the popular decision on the gay rights amendment to the courts after they lost it at the polls. [/font]

[MagiDragon]

i don't know if we can really say that bush is bigger than reagan . . . reagan won the popular vote by huge amounts, and won virtually every state.

BTW, Reagan was one of the greatest Presidents of all time!!! Even if Bush pales by comparison, Bush can still be great!

Peace,
Joe

[littleflower+JMJ]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='Nov 3 2004, 09:28 PM'] [font="Courier"]Bush just blows the liberal’s minds
They are young naive and hold a misplaced idealism
Bush won with a higher than average registered voter turnout and Bush won a popular vote of more than 58,390,139 … this is huge – this is bigger than Reagan!

2004: Bush 58,390,139 (current, from CNN)
2000: Gore 50,996,582
1996: Clinton 45,590,703*
1992: Clinton 44,908,254*
1988: Bush 47,946,000
1984: Reagan 54,455,000
1980: Reagan 43,901,812
*Not a majority of the vote

So what is this “nation divided” line that the liberals are trying to feed us? Was Clinton told he needed to “reach across the isle”?
We are not a nation divided and the Liberals cannot handle the will of the people – that’s why the Libs are going to take the popular decision on the gay rights amendment to the courts after they lost it at the polls. [/font] [/quote]
i agree i think it was pretty clear by all the votes who they wanted...otherwise it would not have been such a big number

[BeenaBobba]

As of now, one of my friends (a Kerry supporter) isn't talking to me because I voted for Bush. She's got major beef.

God bless,

Jen

P.S. It's funny how tolerance works, isn't it?

[Lil Red]

[quote name='BeenaBobba' date='Nov 3 2004, 09:25 PM']
P.S. It's funny how tolerance works, isn't it? [/quote]
yeah...

[Sinner]

The "divided nation" theory is always floated after each election. There has never been a more unified nation in the history of mankind. Sure, there will always be bitter individuals...... but when the cards are down, Americans generally stand together.... hence the Kerry vote for the war.

[shelly_freak]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Nov 3 2004, 06:57 PM'] ...The Kerry people are a younger crowd... [/quote]
well lets see...both my grandparents voted Kerry, my parents voted Kerry (counts on fingers) out of the like 8 people in my family that voted Kerry I am the only one who would be considered a younger voter

[Guest Aluigi]

the youngins for kerry thing was actually a stereotype that turned out to be false.

[Good Friday]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl']Somehow I think it would have been easier for us to accept defeat than it will be for the Kerry people.[/quote]
The liberal left is not taking this well, and they're going to take it even harder as the Democratic Party begins to reform and move away from the left. What this really signifies is not the defeat of the Democratic Party, but the defeat of the liberal left. The Democratic Party will adapt and move back to the moderate middle, but the liberal left -- especially the pro-abortion and pro-gay rights special interests -- have seen the end of their political influence. Of course, there will still be Democratic politicians who will support these special interests, but I believe that the party platform and eventually the entire party itself will move toward the middle and away from groups like NARAL Pro-Choice America, the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, the Human Rights Campaign (a gay rights group), etc. I think it will be a long time, if ever, before you see another Democratic presidential candidate sitting down at the beginning of the Democratic primaries at a NARAL Pro-Choice America conference.

Thus, those you see in a long-term rage will be the liberal left. The moderates of the Democratic Party are actually happy, at this point, although the major defeat is somewhat disheartening for all Democrats. But it is also a happy time for moderate Democrats, because it signals that we will now be getting our party back. The liberal left isn't going to like it. You'll see statements flying, opposing the election of Sen. Harry Reid, a pro-life Democrat, to the Senate minority leadership. I'm sure both NARAL and Planned Parenthood will issue press releases and lobby for more liberal Senators, like Hilary Clinton, to become the minority leader.

It won't work, because it's clear that Senators like Hilary Clinton have become unelectable in an America where at least 22% of voters are voting primarily because of "moral values," more than any other issue. The election of Sen. Harry Reid will mark the official policy shift in the Democratic Party. The Democrats will remain the voice of liberal economics, but the move away from the social liberal left is already happening, and it will only gain more momentum from here, until pro-abortion Democrats will have to establish groups like "Democrats for Choice" instead of "Democrats for Life," because the Democrats for choice will soon be in the minority.

It really is an exciting time for moderates in the Democratic Party. The election of President Bush, although it will ultimately be a bad thing for the economics of the country, is a good thing for morality and a good thing, ultimately, for the Democratic Party, because it has forced the party to reconsider the very core of what it is.

[AfroNova No Limit Soldier]

[quote name='BeenaBobba' date='Nov 3 2004, 11:25 PM'] As of now, one of my friends (a Kerry supporter) isn't talking to me because I voted for Bush. She's got major beef.

God bless,

Jen

P.S. It's funny how tolerance works, isn't it? [/quote]
I am going through the same thing. How many emails I have written & research I have done because of this election...

It is funny how tolerance works.

[Christ's Knight]

You are somewhat right about the nation divided...

1 nation under God!
&
1 nation under ourselves!

[Ash Wednesday]

[quote name='BeenaBobba' date='Nov 3 2004, 11:25 PM'] As of now, one of my friends (a Kerry supporter) isn't talking to me because I voted for Bush. She's got major beef.

God bless,

Jen

P.S. It's funny how tolerance works, isn't it? [/quote]
Oh I HEAR you, sistah!

I got sooooo much grief from a close liberal friend when I voted Bush in 2000. (Which is stupid because she didn't even vote...) The last time we talked politics I had been leaning independant, but in the end I ended up voting for Bush. I can't talk politics with her because her hatred is overwhelming and really off-putting.

But we ended up not discussing politics at all on Election Day -- and she was upset about something else and didn't want to think about it. I wonder if she even voted this time...?

It blows my mind how people can preach "tolerance" -- except towards conservatives and Judeo-Christian values.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Good Friday' date='Nov 4 2004, 02:20 AM'] [quote name='cmotherofpirl']Somehow I think it would have been easier for us to accept defeat than it will be for the Kerry people.[/quote]
The liberal left is not taking this well, and they're going to take it even harder as the Democratic Party begins to reform and move away from the left. What this really signifies is not the defeat of the Democratic Party, but the defeat of the liberal left. The Democratic Party will adapt and move back to the moderate middle, but the liberal left -- especially the pro-abortion and pro-gay rights special interests -- have seen the end of their political influence. Of course, there will still be Democratic politicians who will support these special interests, but I believe that the party platform and eventually the entire party itself will move toward the middle and away from groups like NARAL Pro-Choice America, the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, the Human Rights Campaign (a gay rights group), etc. I think it will be a long time, if ever, before you see another Democratic presidential candidate sitting down at the beginning of the Democratic primaries at a NARAL Pro-Choice America conference.

Thus, those you see in a long-term rage will be the liberal left. The moderates of the Democratic Party are actually happy, at this point, although the major defeat is somewhat disheartening for all Democrats. But it is also a happy time for moderate Democrats, because it signals that we will now be getting our party back. The liberal left isn't going to like it. You'll see statements flying, opposing the election of Sen. Harry Reid, a pro-life Democrat, to the Senate minority leadership. I'm sure both NARAL and Planned Parenthood will issue press releases and lobby for more liberal Senators, like Hilary Clinton, to become the minority leader.

It won't work, because it's clear that Senators like Hilary Clinton have become unelectable in an America where at least 22% of voters are voting primarily because of "moral values," more than any other issue. The election of Sen. Harry Reid will mark the official policy shift in the Democratic Party. The Democrats will remain the voice of liberal economics, but the move away from the social liberal left is already happening, and it will only gain more momentum from here, until pro-abortion Democrats will have to establish groups like "Democrats for Choice" instead of "Democrats for Life," because the Democrats for choice will soon be in the minority.

It really is an exciting time for moderates in the Democratic Party. The election of President Bush, although it will ultimately be a bad thing for the economics of the country, is a good thing for morality and a good thing, ultimately, for the Democratic Party, because it has forced the party to reconsider the very core of what it is. [/quote]
You are right on the money.
Did you get your article done, or is this it?

[Good Friday]

It's done and I think Catholic Exchange is going to publish it, but I don't want to post it here until it's been published on Catholic Exchange because I don't want to mess with their copyright or anything. Some websites and magazines aren't comfortable with publishing something that's been published elsewhere (even on a message board), because then there are legalities that they have to deal with. But as soon as it's on Catholic Exchange I'll also post it here.