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SirMyztiq

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Kerry is the man because he actually fought for this country instead of running away under daddy's wing.

Kerry is open to new views and ideas and he doesn't wear his own views on his sleeves which allows him, as would any president, to make decisions solely based on what the public wants or decisions that solely based on rational thought and I trust him not to allow his own aides and private matters get into play with the leadership of this country.

Kerry would be a new face in our government and would help in convincing other countries to help out in a war that they were first pushed out of.

Bush's plan is a total waste. The debt WILL never get any better with his tax cuts to the rich unless the rich got a sudden rush of trickle economics.

No Kid left behind is a total waste because Bush isn't implementing the core basis of this program that makes schools create new classes in order to improve the learning environment. Kerry in the other hand will actually FUND no child left behind and will allow more freedom for teachers to instruct classes the way they see fit without having to follow strict guide lines.

The list goes on...

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That is your own personal opinion and your entitled to it.

That doesn't mean a woman should have to do as you say.

Kerry doesn't "kill children" This is a choice. A choice for a woman to know that she is going to bring a child into life and accepts the responsibility of it or not having the baby because she is not ready and she knows that the child won't grow in a proper environment.

Besides unless you can have a baby for the woman I just couln't think of forcing anybody to have a massive amount of flesh and bones come out of a tiny hole in my body. It's painful I hear.

Catholicism has been around for a long time. What does that have to do with the fact that it's more commercial now? IBOC comes to mind. It's not catholic but protestant. Catholicism hasn't always been great and I don't ever recall a country under Christian control come out succesfull in spreading the so called message of love and unity.

The fact that you had to pay to go to heaven come to mind and we can't forget about the crusades or that Christianity came from Judaism. Or that the new Bible was edited and only included some books that would make Jesus seem heavenly and excluding the books that showed him as human by a king who wanted to unite the pagan and the christians under his rule and called it "the church"

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[quote name='SirMyztiq' date='Nov 1 2004, 08:52 PM'] Besides unless you can have a baby for the woman I just couln't think of forcing anybody to have a massive amount of flesh and bones come out of a tiny hole in my body. It's painful I hear. [/quote]
what if your mom had the same idea?

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[quote name='SirMyztiq' date='Nov 1 2004, 07:52 PM'] In response to Brother Adam...


That is your own personal opinion and your entitled to it.

That doesn't mean a woman should have to do as you say. [/quote]
Many personal opinions are that people should be allowed to murder, why is that one stopped?

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CatholicAndFanatical

Welcome to PhatMass dude.

I didnt have time to read all of this but will post just one point

You said - "Bush is a wack job who got his job because his media friends gave him a boost"

Read my lips, whoever wins this election is going to win it NOT by votes, but through the Courts of the USA.

Its already been said and set up so that whoever looses they are going to cry and wine like Al Gore did and demand a recount of all the places he lost by a view votes.

If Kerry wins, he's going to have to live with the fact that he didnt win by votes, but rather by the court...just like George Dubyah did.


Im interested to see who's going to be the baby this time round, Bush or Kerry. I wouldnt be suprised if Gore came back and started crying again either.

I cant wait until Christ comes back....this world stinks

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Actually if you read my post in the "new guy" thread I said that I was RAISED Catholic. I even wanted to be a priest when I was a little kid. I went to church, had my communion the work. Along the way I grew hopeless with the narrow mindset of the religion.

That and I'm just not liable to force my beliefs unto others.

Phikoz my mom didn't have the same idea. She wanted to have me(I hope) If abortion had crossed her mind then I wouldn't be here now would I? Does that mean that I should be glad she didn't abort...No, because I wouldn't have been alive in order to know what abortion was. In other words you're completely out of context.

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[quote name='SirMyztiq' date='Nov 1 2004, 09:18 PM']
Phikoz my mom didn't have the same idea. She wanted to have me(I hope) If abortion had crossed her mind then I wouldn't be here now would I? Does that mean that I should be glad she didn't abort...No, because I wouldn't have been alive in order to know what abortion was. In other words you're completely out of context. [/quote]
exactly, she didnt have the idea, so why should you have the idea?

she gave you life, why not give someone else life in return?

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In response to Qfnol...

Because you aren't my mother and you don't have to support me in any way for or fashion. Also you don't know me and you don't know the burden that I can be sometimes. Also I was never in you and therefore you actions of murdering me would be based on nothing.

Other than the fact that you think that abortion would mean allowing murder to occur which to you might be the same thing but it isn't really true. Abortion is a pre-conceived emotion that woman feels about her self and her future baby. Murder is just plain killing without cause.

And to say that abortion is plain killing without a cause only shows ignorance and therefore your rhetoric would prove to be biased.

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You seem to say that we can't legislate our morality is my point. I think that that's what we're doing when we say no murder, no rape, no etc.

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The fact that you had to pay to go to heaven come to mind and we can't forget about the crusades or that Christianity came from Judaism. Or that the new Bible was edited and only included some books that would make Jesus seem heavenly and excluding the books that showed him as human by a king who wanted to unite the pagan and the christians under his rule and called it "the church"
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you gotta lot to learn about the Church brotha man...those 'books' as you call them were never officially IN the Bible. They were writtings that were floating around and some caused heresy. Because of this the Pope ordered they be brought together and only the inspired ones were to be placed in the Bible.

Ya know, the corporation called 'De Fide' recently brought a law suit against Kerry for breaking of Canon Law, and the Vatican backs them. Saying that if anyone openly supports abortion [b] You are no longer Catholic[/b]

This is your Q to stop listening to the World and start listening to the Church.

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[quote name='Phikoz' date='Nov 1 2004, 09:22 PM'] exactly, she didnt have the idea, so why should you have the idea?

she gave you life, why not give someone else life in return? [/quote]
My mom wanted to HAVE me. Therefore I was born. She wasn't forced to have me.

And Catholic...

You can't count the hundreds of votes that weren't allowed to be made. Gore wasn't crying, during that time we were fighting for justice and the fact that hundreds of minority voters were denied the right to vote for lame reasons is reason enough to "cry".

You're right. The supreme court, who just happens to be a conservative majority and one of the guys was appointed by Bush's daddy, elected our president. Not the people. The people were right not to elect Bush. Too bad Fox didn't think so.

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[quote name='CatholicAndFanatical' date='Nov 1 2004, 09:27 PM']

you gotta lot to learn about the Church brotha man...those 'books' as you call them were never officially IN the Bible. They were writtings that were floating around and some caused heresy. Because of this the Pope ordered they be brought together and only the inspired ones were to be placed in the Bible.

Ya know, the corporation called 'De Fide' recently brought a law suit against Kerry for breaking of Canon Law, and the Vatican backs them. Saying that if anyone openly supports abortion [b] You are no longer Catholic[/b]

This is your Q to stop listening to the World and start listening to the Church. [/quote]
Huh...I know they weren't. They weren't in the Bible because a king, I forget who, formed a cabinet and weeded out all the books that didn't make Jesus seem holy. And you're right only the "inspired" ones because all others didn't make Jesus seem like the son of God.

I could care less about what "De Fide" does. I never would of thought that being Catholic had to be approved by the Catholic government. Doesn't seem right.

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