Compendium of Church's Social Doctrine

[Pio Nono]

JMJ
10/28 - Sts. Simon and Jude

I just picked up today a copy of the new book put out by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace entitled [i]A Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church[/i]. Man, you gotta get this and read it - it'll change the world if we could act on it.

[Fiat_Voluntas_Tua]

What does it speak of?

Please enlighten me with some tasty morsul's...

Totus Tuus,
Andy

[Ziggamafu]

[quote name='Fiat_Voluntas_Tua' date='28 October 2004 - 11:52 AM' timestamp='1098978725' post='399032']
What does it speak of?

Please enlighten me with some tasty morsul's...

Totus Tuus,
Andy
[/quote]

It basically lays out what orthodoxy demands of the political sphere. Hint: it is not the U.S. Republican Party. Actually, it provides the framework for something [i]similar [/i]to democratic socialism, wherein public options are available for the poor while a free market and private property is retained. Three key words for the entire text: [b]solidarity, subsidiarity, and dignity[/b].

Pretty much the best of all political sides with none of the morally evil stuff. It is frustrating to read because it points to what I think is a perfectly viable civilization / government that is not a fantastic utopia but you still know it won't happen. It has stuff that will make both liberals and conservatives happy which means both liberals and conservatives will hate it.

I marvel at how few of otherwise devout Catholics have read it. The Catechism lays out what the faith is and the CSDCC lays out what that faith naturally results in if applied to the political sphere. Because of this, I think that the CSDCC may actually be a more fruitful tool for evangelism than the Catechism for today's nonbelievers. It reveals what the world would look like if governments were run according to Catholic principles.

[Nihil Obstat]

Why~~~?

[Ziggamafu]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='13 May 2010 - 09:23 AM' timestamp='1273757006' post='2109866']
Why~~~?
[/quote]


Why what?

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Ziggamafu' date='13 May 2010 - 08:25 AM' timestamp='1273757128' post='2109868']
Why what?
[/quote]
Why would you bump a six year old thread?

[Ziggamafu]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='13 May 2010 - 09:25 AM' timestamp='1273757158' post='2109870']
Why would you bump a six year old thread?
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I was curious if there had ever been threads on the CSDCC and this was the only one I found. Rather than start a new thread, I thought I would just pick up on one.

[Nihil Obstat]

I'm watching you.

[Ziggamafu]

I see you too. But not in the fruity Avatar way.

[CatherineM]

This was one of my texts last semester.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Ziggamafu' date='13 May 2010 - 07:21 AM' timestamp='1273756872' post='2109864']
It basically lays out what orthodoxy demands of the political sphere. Hint: it is not the U.S. Republican Party. Actually, it provides the framework for something [i]similar [/i]to democratic socialism, wherein public options are available for the poor while a free market and private property is retained. Three key words for the entire text: [b]solidarity, subsidiarity, and dignity[/b].

Pretty much the best of all political sides with none of the morally evil stuff. It is frustrating to read because it points to what I think is a perfectly viable civilization / government that is not a fantastic utopia but you still know it won't happen. It has stuff that will make both liberals and conservatives happy which means both liberals and conservatives will hate it.

I marvel at how few of otherwise devout Catholics have read it. The Catechism lays out what the faith is and the CSDCC lays out what that faith naturally results in if applied to the political sphere. Because of this, I think that the CSDCC may actually be a more fruitful tool for evangelism than the Catechism for today's nonbelievers. It reveals what the world would look like if governments were run according to Catholic principles.
[/quote]
Are you saying that the "public option" equals "state assistance"? The state has a very limited role in society, and it is vitally important that Catholics remember that, since no one else at the present time does.

Edited May 13, 2010 by Apotheoun

[morostheos]

I agree that this book is an excellent resource!!

[Fiat_Voluntas_Tua]

Funny you should reply to my comment over 6 years ago, today...because I get on here about once a year or so now, and just HAPPENED to check this thread, and saw I commented on it in 2004. I still haven't read it, but I have recently read [i]Rerum Navarum[/i] again about a month ago, and that document takes the cake for social justice.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Ziggamafu' date='13 May 2010 - 09:21 AM' timestamp='1273756872' post='2109864']
It basically lays out what orthodoxy demands of the political sphere. Hint: it is not the U.S. Republican Party. Actually, it provides the framework for something [i]similar [/i]to democratic socialism, wherein public options are available for the poor while a free market and private property is retained. Three key words for the entire text: [b]solidarity, subsidiarity, and dignity[/b].

Pretty much the best of all political sides with none of the morally evil stuff. It is frustrating to read because it points to what I think is a perfectly viable civilization / government that is not a fantastic utopia but you still know it won't happen. It has stuff that will make both liberals and conservatives happy which means both liberals and conservatives will hate it.

I marvel at how few of otherwise devout Catholics have read it. The Catechism lays out what the faith is and the CSDCC lays out what that faith naturally results in if applied to the political sphere. Because of this, I think that the CSDCC may actually be a more fruitful tool for evangelism than the Catechism for today's nonbelievers. It reveals what the world would look like if governments were run according to Catholic principles.
[/quote]

I love the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, but I don't see it as democratic socialist in the slightest. Actually, I find it to be a mixture of the principles of the tea party (subsidiarity, private property, family rights, parental rights, education, freedom of belief), human rights (which doesn't really belong to any single party or group), and the non-governmental grassroots movements like Solidarity.

[Fiat_Voluntas_Tua]

Raphael...long time no chat. I just sent you a message [i]via [/i]your blog. I haven't read it, but I think that (after reading Rerum Novarum) there are a few features of the Catholic Social teaching that can be closely related with what is associated with Socialism...namely that we are morally obligated to help people. If that means you are a socialist, then I think the tenants of socialism are too broad! But, regardless, there are many aspects of the Church's social teaching that your fiscally conservative Republican would tag as Socialistic. Perhaps that is what Zig is getting at?