carrdero Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Most of us remeber the story of the three shepherds that witnesses a vision of the Virgin Mary on May 13, 1917. The miracle was authenticated by the Church. There was a third message written on parchment and hand delivered to the Pope. Was this third message ever revealed to the public? The final prophecy is supposed to be so powerful that the Vatican is unsure whether to release it or not. Just wondering what people think of this topic and if anyone has any information regarding the third secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarf Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 It was revealed to the public in 2000, and it was just really cryptic religious imagery. I'm sure you can find it on the web. The official interpretation of the Church is that it refers to the assassination attempt made on JPII in the '80s, but there is more than a little room for skepticism that its depictions have yet to transpire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Learn evrything about it straight from the source right: [url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html"] HERE[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 It was Our Holy Father in the vision. Only in the vision, they were not sure which pope it was to be. [quote]When asked: “Is the principal figure in the vision the Pope?”, Sister Lucia replied at once that it was. She recalled that the three children were very sad about the suffering of the Pope, and that Jacinta kept saying: “Coitadinho do Santo Padre, tenho muita pena dos pecadores!” (“Poor Holy Father, I am very sad for sinners!”). Sister Lucia continued: “We did not know the name of the Pope; Our Lady did not tell us the name of the Pope; we did not know whether it was Benedict XV or Pius XII or Paul VI or John Paul II; but it was the Pope who was suffering and that made us suffer too”. As regards the passage about the Bishop dressed in white, that is, the Holy Father—as the children immediately realized during the “vision”—who is struck dead and falls to the ground, Sister Lucia was in full agreement with the Pope's claim that “it was a mother's hand that guided the bullet's path and in his throes the Pope halted at the threshold of death” (Pope John Paul II, Meditation from the Policlinico Gemelli to the Italian Bishops, 13 May 1994). Before giving the sealed envelope containing the third part of the “secret” to the then Bishop of Leiria-Fatima, Sister Lucia wrote on the outside envelope that it could be opened only after 1960, either by the Patriarch of Lisbon or the Bishop of Leiria. Archbishop Bertone therefore asked: “Why only after 1960? Was it Our Lady who fixed that date?” Sister Lucia replied: “It was not Our Lady. I fixed the date because I had the intuition that before 1960 it would not be understood, but that only later would it be understood. Now it can be better understood. I wrote down what I saw; however it was not for me to interpret it, but for the Pope. [/quote] Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarf Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 The funny thing about it is that I've heard all kinds of conspiracy thoeries about it from non-Catholics. :shootme: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 not to mention "trads"... they have a bunch of conspiracy theories as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 [quote name='Aluigi' date='Oct 27 2004, 10:11 PM'] not to mention "trads"... they have a bunch of conspiracy theories as well... [/quote] Oh man do they ever. Have you ever been onto fatima.org??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 This could get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Then let it not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I was just making an observation. I'm staying out of this discussion, unless someone drags me into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 If the Church says the secret was revealed, then it was. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Not gonna do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicforChrist Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 When people make comments without support, evidence, or proof, they make true the words of Abraham Lincoln: "It is better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." People who make claims (especially stupid ones) without support prove themselves to be geniuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 THe end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 [quote name='CatholicforChrist' date='Oct 28 2004, 12:07 PM'] When people make comments without support, evidence, or proof, they make true the words of Abraham Lincoln: "It is better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." People who make claims (especially stupid ones) without support prove themselves to be geniuses. [/quote] What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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