J.R.D Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [quote name='musturde' date='Oct 30 2004, 02:28 PM'] JRD, What is Kerry's plan for this? You havent answered me on this. He claims he has some genuis plan. We at least know Bush's plan. Kerry isnt very clear. BTW, You're right in one aspect for the morality issue but this is life. Why don't we still have slaves. SURE, let's just let some people force their morality on their babies by killing them. That doesn't make sense to me. [/quote] Yes we dont know his plan but thats the guiness of him ..... He's waiting to let it out when hes president and that why he has so much follwers ..... because there waiting or ancious about what it is .... and we do know bush's plan which is why most poeple are no voting for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 So, in other words, Kerry is afraid people wont vote for him if he tells his plan... Very convincing. Either that or we can take can easily say he has no plan. The reason why people are following him is because they are just against Bush and stupid enough to believe Kerry actually has a good plan or even a plan at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 if he had a good plan he should tell us it so we can be convinced! he doesn't tell you because he knows that to pay for all the stuff he's promised he'll have to tax the middle class more, and he wants you to believe he won't do that. anyway, what kind of crazy idea would that be? wait till he's president to let everyone know what his plan is. People are voting hoping the plan he's eventually going to tell them will be good? what if it's bad? you don't know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 you're playing poker. you call and show your cards. the other guy says "oh, my cards can beat that, let me have the money now" without showing you his cards. do you not demand to see his cards before you hand over the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [quote name='Aluigi' date='Oct 30 2004, 03:45 PM'] you're playing poker. you call and show your cards. the other guy says "oh, my cards can beat that, let me have the money now" without showing you his cards. do you not demand to see his cards before you hand over the money? [/quote] exactly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kel Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 [quote name='Delivery Boy' date='Oct 26 2004, 04:34 PM'] from mtv news : Michael Moore, the "Fahrenheit 9/11" filmmaker who tried his hand at directing music videos with Rage Against the Machine, would certainly approve of Eminem's new clip, "Mosh," which has just hit the Internet. A scathing indictment of President Bush and the war in Iraq (see "Em Changes Targets From Jacko To Bush On New Track 'Mosh' "), the animated video begins with the jarring image of a commercial airliner flying over a school and then exploding offscreen. The point of view then zooms into the school, where Eminem is reading a children's book to a class in a scene reminiscent of the minutes following the 9-11 attacks, when Bush was at a Florida elementary school reading to second graders. Eminem is holding his book upside down. From there, "Mosh" moves to Eminem's apartment, where the walls are covered with articles critical of the Bush administration and its policies. Filled with anger, he puts on gloves and dons a hooded jacket. Clips of Em rapping the track are then interspersed with scenes of domestic problems facing the country, such as racial profiling (an animated Lloyd Banks is harassed by police) and poverty (an inner-city family receives an eviction notice as their TV set shows Bush promising tax cuts for the wealthy). "Mosh" portrays Eminem as a powerful rebellious figure who just by using his voice and music has the ability to mobilize people who are fed up with the president. With his following uniformly dressed in dark hoodies, the group looks to be storming toward the White House but actually end up signing up to vote. At the same time in the song, Em talks about the people assembling to disarm what he calls the real weapon of mass destruction: George W. Bush. A pro-vote message is tagged on at the end of the clip, directed by Ian Inaba of the Guerrilla News Network, which is hosting the video at GNN.tv. Eminem's Encore is due November 16. [/quote] Precious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J.R.D Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 when kerry's president It'll be better just wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 If he lives to become president . That's an interesting arguement. Well what do you think Kerry would have done if he was in Bush's place? His name might have been a lot more known for bad decisions. He only claims he would have been better, but that's with hindsight. Anyone can claim better decisions with hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 call this a blank post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 MATTHEW 7-15 FALSE PROPHETS "BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS, WHO COME TO YOU IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING, BUT UNDERNEATH ARE RAVENOUS WOLVES. BY THEIR FRUITS YOU WILL KNOW THEM. DO PEOPLE PICK GRAPES FROM THORNBUSHES, OR FIGS FROM THISTLES? JUST SO, EVERY GOOD TREE BEARS GOOD FRUIT, AND A ROTTEN TREE BEARS BAD FRUIT. A GOOD TREE CANNOT BEAR BAD FRUIT, NOR CAN A ROTTEN TREE BEAR GOOD FRUIT. EVERY TREE THAT DOES NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT WILL BE CUT DOWN AND THROWN INTO THE FIRE. SO BY THEIR FRUITS YOU WILL KNOW THEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 People, people, calm down. This isn't about Kerry and Bush and abortion. You guys always do this! This video is about Eminem's opinions and excercising his right to free speech. I agree with many of his critiques of Bush and I am glad he didn't depict abortion like it was a good thing. There is nothing against a person disagreeing with a public figure, and its wrong to call it 'satanic rage' becuase of personal politics. I find it disturbing that a lot of Catholics take Bush's pro-life stance to mean they have to agree with all of his policies. The Pope himself condemned the war, so its OK to disagree with Bush on the war. The CCC condemns allowing famines to continue so as to improve your own financial situation, and Bush allows famines he has the resources to end to continue. Bush is NOT a holy man, and doesn't have the world's best interests at heart. Just because Bush saves babies doesn't mean that he's right in giving tax cuts to the rich and leaving behind the poor - that is not, in my opinion, the sign of a righteous man. By the way, being enraged at Mr. Bin Laden and Mr. Hussein would be allowing yourself to get carried away by one of the 7 deadly sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 how do you know bush isnt a holy man ? and have you ever heard bush say "fuc* eminem" ?? by the holy spirit eminem did not say "fuc* george bush" thats not useing your free speach that is being a complete idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 although i shouldnt have called it a demonic rage im done argueing about hiphop im jus gonna start doing my thing and let the chips fall where they fall all i know though is hiphop that is presented today on tv is'a buncha junk for the most part.....and eminem gots those dark forces up in him holla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 You made a good attempt to stop the debate but ended up in making it last longer lol... [quote]I find it disturbing that a lot of Catholics take Bush's pro-life stance to mean they have to agree with all of his policies. The Pope himself condemned the war, so its OK to disagree with Bush on the war. [/quote] Okay now, you're acting like it was Bush's whole idea to begin with. I'd be mad at Kerry for this action too especially after he tries rubbing it into Bush's face when he himself voted for it. [quote]I find it disturbing that a lot of Catholics take Bush's pro-life stance to mean they have to agree with all of his policies.[/quote] That's disturbing but most openminded Catholics wouldn't say they agree with Bush on everything but instead that they are both not the most fit for office. [quote]Bush is NOT a holy man, and doesn't have the world's best interests at heart.[/quote] First of all, you can't judge him on that. Second, America has always been like this. You wonder why the world hates us? Eminem has a voice in this, it's just annoying that there's a lack of the full truth in it. Well, that's media for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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