point5 Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Am I correct in saying that Catholics believe salvation is not attained untill the final judgement. Can I say that I am saved? I've read others comment that we are saved, are being saved, and will be saved. It's a lifelong process. I agree. Just want to know more clarification about assurance and terminology when speaking of salvation. I have read the reference section links...just wanted to hear it out of you guys mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 We are in the process of salvation, participating in it all the time. It isn't set in stone whether or not we've been saved, but we also don't have to wait until judgement day. Our first judgement is right at our death. The second judgement is where all souls retain their bodies, the righteous to live with God forever in happiness, and the damned to live forever seperated from God in suffering with their body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 >>Are you saved <<I have been saved, am being saved, and I hope to be saved by Love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point5 Posted October 26, 2004 Author Share Posted October 26, 2004 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 what zach said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiat_Voluntas_Tua Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 "Are you saved?" needs a threefold response. 1) "I have been saved." Jesus died for me. Through faith and baptism I have received forgiveness. I am a new creation, sharing the very nature of God. (2nd Peter 1:4); 2) "I am being saved." I look to the Lord daily for grace to continuing believing, loving doing God's will; 3) "I hope to be saved." I must persevere until the end of my life. I firmly hope in His grace to enable me to do so (Phil 3:7-11 and especially 12-14). Totus Tuus, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 From my friend Jon's website. www.aboutcatholics.com/ viewpage.php?story=70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 woh, cool website!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Benedict..........tell ur friend i give him mad props. i'm gonna link to his stuff in the reference section to raise his site up the Google rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 [u][b]Are You Saved?[/b][/u] [i]Past Event (I have been saved)[/i] Rom 8:24 - for in hope we were saved Eph 2:5, 8 - by grace you have been saved through faith 2Tim 1;9 - He saved us, called us according to his grace Tit 3:5 - He saved us through bath of rebirth, renewal by Holy Spirit [i]Present Process (I am being saved)[/i] Phil 2;12 - work out your salvation with fear and trembling 1Pet 1:9 - as you attain the goal of your faith, salvation [i]Future Event (I will be saved)[/i] Mt 10:22 - he who endures to the end will be saved Mt 24:1 - he who perseveres to the end will be saved Mk 8:35 - whoever loses his life for my sake will save it Acts 15:11 - we shall be saved through the grace of Jesus Rom 5:9-10 - since we are justified, we shall be saved Rom 13:11 - salvation is nearer now than first believed Cor 3:15 - he shall be saved, but only as through fire 1Cor 5:5 - deliver man to Satan so his spirit may be saved Heb 9:28 - Jesus will appear second time, to bring salvation [i]from [url="http://www.davesloan.com/god/biblical_basis.html"][b]A Biblical Basis for the Catholic Church[/b][/url][/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 He will be very glad to hear that. Thanks Phatcatholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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