Iacobus Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 [url="http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/10/25/iraq_explosives_missing041025.html"]http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...sing041025.html[/url] [url="http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=609051§ion=news"]http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticl...51§ion=news[/url] [url="http://www.boston.com/dailynews/299/world/U_N_agency_insurgents_in_Iraq_:.shtml"]http://www.boston.com/dailynews/299/world/...in_Iraq_:.shtml[/url] [url="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933/"]http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933/[/url] [url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4574715,00.html"]http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/stor...4574715,00.html[/url] [quote]Melissa Fleming said the Iraqi Ministry of Science and Technology had told the agency that about 350 tonnes of material was missing from the former Al Qaqaa military installation – once a key facility in Saddam Hussein's efforts to build a nuclear bomb. "We do not know what happened to the explosives or when they were looted," said Fleming. Included in the missing material are HMX and RDX, the New York Times reported on Monday. Those explosives can be used to demolish buildings, but can also be used to produce warheads for missiles and detonate nuclear weaponry. HMX is used in various kinds of explosives and rocket fuels. RDX is considered the most powerful of the high explosives in military use. Both are key ingredients in plastic explosives such as Semtex and C-4. About five pounds of either plastic explosive would be enough to destroy a dozen airliners, experts say. [b]Before the U.S. invasion last year, the IAEA had been keeping tabs on stockpiles of HMX and RDX, which are so-called "dual-use" explosives because they can be used in nuclear weapons.[/b] The Al Qaqaa facility, a large military installation located 45 kilometres south of Baghdad, has been under U.S. military control since the war, but has repeatedly been looted. [/quote] To give you an idea of the power of these weapons. Less than a pound of the same explosive that are now missing took down Pan AM Flight 103. There were 760,000 pounds at Al Qaqaa. 270 people were killed on that flight. Assuming the weapons are, as the IAEA has indicated, in the wrong hands, this could be enough to kill 205,200,000 people really cheaply. But never fear, that is only, spread out over 30 years roughly the time of abortion, a mere 19,000 people a day. And Al Qaqaa was under US Military control. Do you know see why I, as are others, refusing for vote Bush? This is numericaly a greater threat to life that abortion. Only five times greater. Worry is justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Except that Kerry is just as responsible as Bush for this... And even if these were used to the maximum capacity, the number of forced abortions each month (N.B. forced), would surpass the possible number of people killed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 I might have posted this in the wrong phourm. If a mod feels inclined to move it to debate please do so. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 This is really stuff I don't like reading when my brother's tour of duty is coming up again very soon But I refuse to vote for Kerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.R.D Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Jennie can we talk on msn please I agree what theoketos said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Oct 25 2004, 04:14 PM'] Except that Kerry is just as responsible as Bush for this... And even if these were used to the maximum capacity, the number of forced abortions each month (N.B. forced), would surpass the possible number of people killed... [/quote] The thing is that Bush is the commander in cheif of the US armed forces and his aides told him he was short on troops, we couldn't secure Iraq with our current troop levels, and yet he pushed on. Thus Bush is by far more responible for the failure to protect the base. Kerry said that it was never guarded, but that is like Bush saying "I am the one for the job" they aren't going to say otherwise. Maybe I am not thinking or something but N.B. forced? I am not sure what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 [quote name='J.R.D' date='Oct 25 2004, 04:17 PM'] Jennie can we talk on msn please [/quote] I would be glad to talk to ya hun, but I'm not at home right now and this computer in the library doesn't have MSN mess. so I'll PM ya and see what's up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Oct 25 2004, 04:15 PM'] This is really stuff I don't like reading when my brother's tour of duty is coming up again very soon But I refuse to vote for Kerry [/quote] LOL! This is not a plug for Kerry. Or at least that is not what I intended it to be. I am just explaining why I don't think Bush really is the guy and my slight concern about voting for Bush only because he is anti abortion. There are other people running who are anti Abortion and have the forgein policy sense of the guy running against Bush. I am worried about voting for Bush and in turn endding abortion and replacing it with an equal or greater attack on human life. And I am sorry to hear that your brother is going back over, I shall pray for him to return home safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Oct 25 2004, 04:21 PM'] And I am sorry to hear that your brother is going back over, I shall pray for him to return home safely. [/quote] Thanks Jacob, my family and I appreciate that bunches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Oct 25 2004, 05:15 PM'] This is really stuff I don't like reading when my brother's tour of duty is coming up again very soon But I refuse to vote for Kerry [/quote] Jen, you know how I feel. Your brother, you, and your family have my adamant prayers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Thanks Micah Our Lady and my Guardian Angel brought him home safely once I'm positive that they can do it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Jacob, I think that you miss some of the point. I am voting for Bush not only because he is anti-abortion but because out of the two candidates that the race is really between, Bush has more to offer. This is going to be a close race. The whole country knows it. It is not between Kerry, Bush and Joe. This race is between Kerry and Bush ONLY. There is no way on God's green earth that Joe is going to win. Thus as Catholics we need to use our voting right responsibly and vote for the one of the two who will win and who will support the right to life better. Kerry is not going to do it. Bush is. Period. Pax out, Meg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 But this raises a question on how does Bush support life. To level a scale you don't just adjust the mass on one side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmeister2 Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 He supports life much more than Kerry. Kerry has no real plan for America, many things he says is lies. He claims to be a good Catholic, yeah right! He has many problems, dont vote for him! And being pro-life is alot more than just against abortion. It also includes being against Euthanasia, Fetal Stem Cell research, and he is also against Gay marriages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 There is a potential to capture, secure, or thwart the plans of the terrorists who want to use these explosives. You can't make a decision based on whether this stuff could potentially kill people versus something that is actually killing people every single day, legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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