ayed Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 In the Name Allah , the Most compassionate, the Most gracious Hi , all my dear members and readers. I have asked Mr.Jake Heuther whether prophet, Muhammad(PBUH) is mentioned in your holy books . Mr. Jake Heuther answered that Muhammad is not mentioned in yours? I ask all of you to answer my question honestly: Some people say that your holy books predicating and telling about things that would happen in future such as” USSR collapse”. Do your holy books talk of name”Muhammad” or “ Ahmad”or some glad tidings or any indication referring to him? Ayed , ayed4all@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrndveritatis Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 Ayed, Muhammad is not mentioned in the Bible. However, Ishmael the son of Abraham is present, and we believe just as you do that from him sprung Islam, just as Catholicism came through Isaac. As far as prophecies of Muhammad, I am not aware of any. It is true that Christ prophecied about the end of the world and that the Book of Revelation contains prophecies, however they are often misinterpreted and applied to any situation that seems to fit their description even slightly. The prediction of Russia's fall is the result of the apparations of the Blessed Virgin Mary at Fatima, Portugal, earlier this century. Mary predicted both the rise and fall of communism in Russia, as well as the Second World War and the assassination attept on Pope John Paul II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 the Bible talked about people such as Mohammad and John Smith (Mormonism) when it prophesied those who would try 2 add to the Bible (Koran, Book of Mormon) please take no offense, as it says that adding and subtracting from the Book is wrong, this is just what i believe about the Koran and Book of Mormon. that is just what i interpret it to mean. anyway, i heard somewhere that Muslims believed that Mohammed was the "Paraclete" or "Adovocate" that was to come, which Jesus prophesied. Actually, a better interpretation i believe is that Jesus was talking about the Holy Spirit. that's the only two claims i have heard about Muhammed being in the Bible, one is from other Christians (the adding books to the Bible one) and the other was from a muslim i saw on TV (the 'paraclete') one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetarplayer Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 He does not personally appear in the Bible. The New Testament was compiled between 50-150 AD, and Muhammad was born a few centuries later. As to whether any predictions of Muhammad appear in the Bible, I am unsure. God/Allah bless you, Ayed. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 I read a verse a while back and "Ahmad" was mentioned. I don't remember where though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayed Posted October 6, 2003 Author Share Posted October 6, 2003 Thank you all , Honestly, who can tell me about the following glad tidings : "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee,and I will put my words in his mouth;and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him( Deut.18:18) thank you in advance Ayed ayed4all@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Thank you all , Honestly, who can tell me about the following glad tidings : "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee,and I will put my words in his mouth;and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him( Deut.18:18) thank you in advance Ayed ayed4all@hotmail.com I believe that was refering to Jesus. Priest, Prophet, King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayed Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 In the name of Allah , the Most Compassionate m the Most merciful Thank you all , A verse in your holy book says :“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,like unto thee,and I will put my words in his mouth;and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him( Deut.18:18) I invite Mr.Jake Heuther and those who agree with him, right now , to focus on the phrase “like unto thee”: 1-Jesus’ name is not mentioned in the verse! 2-Is Jesus like Mose? Notice : From now and then , I respond to your questions. Please be patient with me. Ayed4all@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Deuteronomy was written long before Jesus. THis prophecy refers to all the prophets who came after Moses and to Jesus himself. Moses was a deliverer, lawgiver and prophet, so was Jesus. ST Paul in Acts 3 22:23 quotes Deuteronomy 18:18 and says this refers to Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 (edited) ayed u know any arabic besides allah? Edited October 12, 2003 by musturde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayed Posted October 12, 2003 Author Share Posted October 12, 2003 thank you all I need more comments . musturde,I did not understand your questions? thank you again, Ayed Ayed4all@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 musturde, im pretty sure he lives in Saudi Arabia and speaks arabic correct me if i'm wrong, ayed. i think the verse has been answered by others as far, or further, than i couldve taken it, so sorry can't give u more comments. don't got any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 I was askin if ya speak arabic. synx Al fo da clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayed Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 In the name of Allah , the Most compassionate, the Most gracious I am sorry for being late.However, what pleases me is that you really do know, as I usually state, that I come over here from now and then. “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,like unto thee,and I will put my words in his mouth;and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him”(Deut 18:18) First, I thank you , Mr.Jake, for your frankness since you ,right now, have confessed nd confirmed that Jesus is not a God at all and this is what I really have been looking for. Second, it appears in the above verse that Jesus is a mere prophet NOT a God which corroborates your clear confession, Mr.Jake. ------------------------------------- (cmotherofpirl):You cannot apply one prophecy over more than one man. 1-Neither Jesus’name nor his mother’s is mentioned in the verse above . 2- Moses was born to parents and the prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was too. As for Jesus ,he was born to the Virgin Maryam and is fatherless(Cf, Exodus 6:20) 3-Both Moses and Muhammad were naturally born#Jesus was miraculously born 4-Both Moses and Muhammad married and each of them had sons#Jesus did not marry and was lifted up into heaven 5-Both Moses and Muhammad were lawgivers and constituted new laws for their nations .Moreover, Moses brought the Ten Commandments and new comprehensive rites for guiding people.As for .Muhammad(PBUH), he was sent to people addicted to wine , pagans , taunted with gambling and they were so dipped in ignorance that they used to commit “newborn femalcide--killing newborn girls”#Jesus was not a lawgiver .Jesus did not constitute new laws as Moses and Muhammad did(Cf, Matthew 5:17) . 6-Neither Moses nor Muhammad were claimed to be Gods . 7-Moses and Muhammad died naturally and buried in earthgraves#Jesus is alive sitting on the right of Allah according to your teachings(Cf, Luke 22:69) 8-“ I will put my words in his mouth;and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him” when Muhamma(PBUH)was 40 year old, he confined himself in Hera cave , 3 miles from Makkah , worshipping Allah. Allah sent down archangiel--Gabriel to Muhammad .Gabriel commanded Muhammd in Arabic tongue , by Allah’s will, asking him: ”read” Muhammad was frightened and answered :”I won’t read” and so Gabiel did command Muhammad one more and Muhammad refuse to read. If you look at “the glad tiding” in No.8 , it definitly tallies with what Gabriel did .Gabriel put Allah’s words in Muhammad’s mouth dictating :” “Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists)>>Has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood)>>Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous>> Who has taught (the writing) by the pen [the first person to write was Prophet Idrees (Enoch)>>Has taught man that which he knew not”(Al-Alaq--the clot 1:5) So, all the glad tidings above apparently tally with Muhammd(PBUH). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alyosius .Yes , you are right. I am saudi live in Saudi Arabia right now. Thank you in advance, Have my heartfelt regards Ayed4all@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 There is no mention of Muhammad in our Holy Bible, however, there are many Old Testament prophesies that forcast the coming of our Lord and Redeemer, Jesus Christ: Therefore the Lord himself will give you this sign: the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 For a child is born to us, a son is given us; upon his shoulder dominion rests. They name him Wonder-Counselor, God-Hero, Father-Forever, Prince of Peace. His dominion is vast and forever peaceful, From David's throne, and over his kingdom, which he confirms and sustains By judgment and justice, both now and forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this! Isaiah 9:5-6 But you, Bethlehem-Ephrathah too small to be among the clans of Judah, From you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel; Whose origin is from of old, from ancient times. Micah 5:1 Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will raise up a righteous shoot to David; As king he shall reign and govern wisely, he shall do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah shall be saved, Israel shall dwell in security. This is the name they give him: "The LORD our justice." Jeremiah 23:5-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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