popestpiusx Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 (edited) Raph, Good Idea. Edited October 19, 2004 by popestpiusx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 I believe its not entirly us dudes fault. i mean, some of the cloths u ladies dress in are like "whoa WTF is she wearing? dude. cover up!" ill admit, i do occasionally..."look" at a girl longer than i should, that part is my fault. but some of you can dress a little more modestly. what you wear to make a guy look? thats your fault. then again you dont havta dress modestly if you dont want to (lol jk ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 So if I wear a pair of jeans and a t-shirt, I am immodest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 [quote name='Luthien' date='Oct 19 2004, 04:58 PM'] So if I wear a pair of jeans and a t-shirt, I am immodest? [/quote] Not necessarily. It depends on how tight it is. Actually, it helps a lot if you wear one color, because it ties the body together psychologically and helps to keep your individual body parts to be noticed apart from the whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 [quote name='Luthien' date='Oct 19 2004, 04:58 PM'] So if I wear a pair of jeans and a t-shirt, I am immodest? [/quote] Only if the t-shirt is super tight that we can see things that we shouldn't be able too. Or if the jeans are one of those *short short* jeans or the long-pair of jeans that slide down pretty far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 *jumps up on her tiny soap box* Okay okay topics like this just make me want to preach lol So here goes. Just a little bit though A girl can dress modestly in a pair of pants just as she can dress modestly in a skirt. The types of guys who will look at a girl's butt while she is wearing a pair of jeans would certainly do the same thing if a girl was in a dress. A lot of guys are just like that and it's sad to say that girls have to suffer for it. You can be dressed as modest as can be but there is always going to be some guy who's going to make a comment, trust me I know Plus a girl should be able to dress for comfort. Not all girls are comfortable in dresses, I know I'm not. I mean I can wear a dress to Mass or every now and then but it's not something I can do everyday because I'm not that comfortable in them. Now with pants that's another story, I could wear jeans or dress pants 24/7 and feel comfie no matter what. I'm telling you it's pretty impossible doing a three hour Chemistry or Botany lab in a dress when you have to keep climbing up and down off of stools, not something to be doing when wearing a dress. Pants, however, should not fit skin tight. That type of pant is really going to lead to some trouble. There are some pants that don't fit tight etc. which I think are acceptable to wear. And man finding those jeans is like finding a needle in a haystack. lol I suffer from the problem of being too short which cause jeans really not to fit right lol But I do find some that work anywho lol. Okay so that's my little spill on pants and dresses. I think it's acceptable to wear pants just as it is acceptable to wear dresses. God Bless Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Thank you! I was about to say that exact thing, but you beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 You can wear a dress modestly and immodestly, just as you can wear pants modestly and immodestly. I think we all have seen both. Check these articles out by Mary Beth Bonnaci. [url="http://reallove.net/articleshowe205.html?ID=22"]You are What you WEAR[/url] [url="http://reallove.net/articleshowa856.html?ID=24"]See any Nice ANKLES lately?[/url] [url="http://reallove.net/articleshow1707.html?ID=17"]Dressing Modestly vs. Dressing "Dumpily"[/url] [url="http://reallove.net/articleshowe248.html?ID=18"]http://reallove.net/articleshowe248.html?ID=18[/url] [url="http://reallove.net/articleshow9ca5.html?ID=51"]Oh, Stop your Bragging![/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voiciblanche Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 [quote name='Shadow' date='Oct 19 2004, 03:38 PM'] I believe its not entirly us dudes fault. i mean, some of the cloths u ladies dress in are like "whoa WTF is she wearing? dude. cover up!" ill admit, i do occasionally..."look" at a girl longer than i should, that part is my fault. but some of you can dress a little more modestly. what you wear to make a guy look? thats your fault. [/quote] Here's your problem. Most of the girls and women that will have read that post do not wear anything that would make a guy go That kind of comment is useless to us, quite honestly. Now, if one of us wears pants that show that we do, in fact, have a rear end, and a guy seems to be very interested in that, perhaps it wouldn't have happened in a skirt. [i]However,[/i] I don't think we should have to wear skirt or dresses all the time, and I don't think we should feel like we're in mortal sin every time a guy looks at us. I mean, guys these days (young ones, anyway) wear very, very baggy clothes that don't indicate any body parts whatsoever, and girls still "check them out." Can they (the guys) be blamed? Not really. Now, you could go into "well, maybe you could see his boxers," or whatever, but even if they're not, the guy may still get looks. Anyway, I think we'd be acting pretty scrupulous if we freaked out and thought we were at fault everytime a guy looked at us, particularly most girls and women on this website. I'm not saying it's anyone's fault and their fault only, but I've been seeing an awful lot of girls getting uncomfortable, thinking that they're sinning by wearing pants, and it seems ridiculous in many of our cases. Just my $.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Amen to that Amber Sometimes I don't think guys realize how hard it is for girls when they are dressing modestly but still get responses they shouldn't be getting. I know I dress very modest and some guys are just always going to comment no matter what a girl is wearing because that's the kind of guys they are. It makes me upset a lot of the time because I think " Well, maybe I'm not modest enough" and it makes me feel guilty. But when it comes down to it a situation like that is in no way my fault, because I know I'm dressed modestly. But it still doesn't help at the very first moment when a comment is thrown toward you and you automatically think " Oh my I must not be dressed modest enough " even if you were dressed any more modest you would literally be wearing a potato sack lol It's not wrong for a guy to think in his head that girl is pretty or for a girl to think a guy is good looking. What is wrong is when we begin to look at the members of the opposite sex not as a child of God but rather out of lust. That's the big difference. I would highly recommend reading Theology of the Body since most of you are old enough to handle the context within it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCC_Catholic Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 [quote name='FutureNunJMJ' date='Oct 18 2004, 08:05 PM'] why does dressing modestly have to be so hard these days? [/quote] that is simple! society today tells us that dresses are only to be done when you dress up and to be modest is something that old people do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Oct 19 2004, 06:23 PM'] Amen to that Amber Sometimes I don't think guys realize how hard it is for girls when they are dressing modestly but still get responses they shouldn't be getting. I know I dress very modest and some guys are just always going to comment no matter what a girl is wearing because that's the kind of guys they are. It makes me upset a lot of the time because I think " Well, maybe I'm not modest enough" and it makes me feel guilty. But when it comes down to it a situation like that is in no way my fault, because I know I'm dressed modestly. But it still doesn't help at the very first moment when a comment is thrown toward you and you automatically think " Oh my I must not be dressed modest enough " even if you were dressed any more modest you would literally be wearing a potato sack lol It's not wrong for a guy to think in his head that girl is pretty or for a girl to think a guy is good looking. What is wrong is when we begin to look at the members of the opposite sex not as a child of God but rather out of lust. That's the big difference. I would highly recommend reading Theology of the Body since most of you are old enough to handle the context within it. [/quote] Good post, Jen. Actually, potato sacks are kind of attractive. jk I would definitely advice starting with [i]Theology of the Body for Beginnners[/i] by Christopher West and taking it slowly. There is a lot you can even meditate on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 19 2004, 07:19 PM'] Good post, Jen. Actually, potato sacks are kind of attractive. jk I would definitely advice starting with [i]Theology of the Body for Beginnners[/i] by Christopher West and taking it slowly. There is a lot you can even meditate on. [/quote] Why not the original version by Pope John Paul II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Theology of the Body for Beginners might be able to be better understood by those who haven't really studied a lot into Theology and Psychology. Reading Theology of the Body for Beginners will help to prepare to you to read Theology of the Body by Pope John Paul II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duc_In_Altum Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 I think this is going nowhere. Maybe its just me but all we've established is that some guys tend to look more than others and gals wanna be comfortable. Maybe a trick of the matter is all in who you hang out with. Perhaps if we hung out with people that love, adore, and respect the vibrant [u]faith[/u] within all of us. You know, the kind of friends that will hold us up and look at the soul. Maybe if we hung out with respectful people, this wouldn't be such an issue. Then, to all those guys who make comments, stare, and the like, the gals can just shake the dust off their feet and move on cuz they're not worth their energy and friendship. And any respectable guy isn't gonna entertain his thoughts and lust, especially over a real friend. Makes sense to me. In faith, hope, and Christ, -Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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