Sarcastic Stare Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Last night my friend had a party. there were drinks. it was my first time actually drinking and i had my parents permission. they trust me and the guys i was with. i had about 4 drinks and cut myself off and switched to water for the rest of the night. i heard stories about guys who drank so much they puked and i didnt want to be one. but a couple of my friends kept going. there were only 5 of us there, but my 2 best friends cedric and david wouldnt stop. in the past i'd seen them have maybe two drinks to loosen up for a night of hanging out but tonight was different. cedric threw back 5 by the time i finished my second, and me and the other guys were trying to cut him off. david had been having serios problems with his girlfriend and was feeling betrayed, and all of a sudden started chugging! i didnt know what to do, i was never in that situation before. the other two guys had seen this though and knew the first thing was to get them to calm down to the point where you could get them away from the alchohol, so i followed the lead. i stopped drinking on my own terms a bit before this attempt started but seeing them like that i instantly made the decision to not drink for a long LONG time. but from that point on i was basically sober. i was babysitting my friends, making sure ced doesnt choke on his vomit and trying to keep a drunk irrational dave from walking in the rain across town to his girlfriends at 2 a.m. it was scary! i didn't know what to do. one was passed out after a while and the other was going back and forth from trying to push past me or cry on my shoulder. david addmitted that he has a problem and ill do everything i can to help him. but what about cedric? im asking for some advice... and prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StColette Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 (edited) First of all rest assured that you and your friends are in all of our prayers. Drinking can be a very serious matter, even if you have your parents permission. You may have had your parents permission to drink, which is legal as long as your parents are present while you are drinking. If your parents are not there with you at the place in which you are drinking then you are in fact breaking a law. Now don't get too worried, you probably were not aware of this type of law, but it does exist mostly for safety and for the ability for parents to still have priority over their children when they feel they should be able to partake of alcoholic drinks. I'm also glad to hear that you cut yourself off after a few drinks, but remember even after a few drinks your brain becomes somewhat impaired. It is different with each person depending on their height and weight. I would not advise to drink more than 1 or 2 drinks that is if you are in the presence of your parents, have their permission in their presence, or if you are over the legal age to drink. As for your friends if they are at the point of getting very sick and drunk, which is a sin, I would advise you to get them away from that alcohol as soon as possible, they should not be left around it because it is far too much of a temptation. This is why it is important for someone to stay sober so that if you have to leave and take someone away from a party you can do so safely. My best advice is to stay sober until you are legal to drink or if you are in your parents' presence and you have their permission to drink. Drinking can turn into a very serious problem and can lead to many problems. Alcohol is really not something to play around with lightly. By setting an example not to drink unless you fit the necessary requirements that make it okay for you to drink your friends may follow suit. Try and be an example for them why drinking is such a serious matter. Please remember that drinking is not a sin but getting drunk is, also remember that breaking a law is also a sin, unless it is a law that goes against the teaching of the Church and God's Commandments. Again be assured that you and your friends are in my prayers and the prayers of the phamily here at phatmass. Pray about what happened with this situation listen to what God tells you and do not be afraid to tell your friends that drinking is a serious matter and it should not be taken lightly. I forgot to add this on lol the drinking law is different in each state so find out what your state says about this matter. God Bless, Jennie Catherine Edited October 17, 2004 by StColette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Stare Posted October 17, 2004 Author Share Posted October 17, 2004 thanks StColette. im giving real thought to calling the police the next time they have a party though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 no problem If that is what God is calling you to do to insure the safety of your friends then do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Oct 16 2004, 09:43 PM'] no problem If that is what God is calling you to do to insure the safety of your friends then do it! [/quote] Jen is correct. Never let fear of losing friendships keep you from doing the right thing, otherwise, they lose your true friendship, and certainly friendship is more truly given that received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I don't drink anymore. Over the course of my life I probly have had about 20 oz of anything. And that is like my parents "Oh we just got this German beer try it" and than I spit it out because it is so ekk. But my friends drink. One time my parents were out of town and my friend was over and he was drinking... a lot. I had a few sips, but it almost made me vomit when it toched my tounge, so needless to say, I didn't even have one full drink. So I was basicly sober by time my friend was really drinking. He started vomiting and he might have passed out, I am not sure because he was also real tried that day and falls asleep real fast. But I was scared. I picked him up like he was a kid (he only weighs 130ish) and carried him to the bathroom where I went into care mode. I paniced at 1st and overcame that. Don't panic, that is all I can say. I spent the next who knows how many hours going to my computer and to the bathroom every five minutes. I had he propped with towels on his side so the vomit would exit his mouth. I checked him for breathing rate and all that every 15 seconds for 1 hour, than to 45 sec for the rest of the nite. I was scared. I knew what to do if his breathing changed, I had my cell ready to call 911. If this happens to you again, call EMS. I was dumb, though he was okay afterwards, to have not called the Fire Dept. It is better for you and your friends to get in trouble for comsuption by a minor (a relivitle trival crime) than for one to die and you to no longer have him alive, plus you could get arrested for a manslughter charge. A BAC over .40 will kill you. Rember that. My advice, besides what I just said? Talk to them. Tell them how scared you were and, as I shall do with you, pray. If need be talk to their parents, they need help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Thank you Pham. I wasnt sure what to say other than pray for his friends. This is an experience that Im sad he had to experience, but I hope he will learn from. He isnt stupid, he is a very moralistic and spiritual Catholic. I think that setting an example for his friends will be the best thing. :wub: I love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Stare Posted October 17, 2004 Author Share Posted October 17, 2004 it's just that i dont feel i did all i could have last night. i was scared. i had to think fast with the other guys... i was taking empties and filling them with water and recapping them to trick the guys. i was trying to calm dave down but it just wasnt working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I'm sure you did all that you could at the time, I've been in that situation before and it's very scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 The water thing is clever. This way they couldnt do this... Sorry I could resist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Stare Posted October 17, 2004 Author Share Posted October 17, 2004 i was just trying to keep it from becoming this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Well, I saw when you first posted this and since then (although not too terribly long) I have been contemplating what to say. You and your friends are in my prayers. I am afraid that is all I can do or say. I know what drinking does to people and I know how even just those couple of drinks can mess things up completely. One of my friends, a good friend, used to go out and get drunk all the time. Every weekend and occasionally even on school days. They were always being taken advantage of because of it too. They did things they didn't really like to do but did because it was almost okay in their minds when they were drunk. Getting smashed was a way of saying everything else was okay because of it. It happened all the time. It got to the point to where they couldn't imagine going without. Drinking competitions soon became popular. I think you get my point that the one or two drinks soon turned into binge drinking, serious emotional problems, and "physical dependency." most of the time i tried to fight it. i tried to get them to stop. i told them that what they were doing was stupid and that they would regret this down the line. they ignored me. pushed me away from the matter. they continued. i continued to insist that they stop. i was always praying for their safety and well-being. i was always the sober one. and i wish i could say that eventually they came around to see what i was saying. i wish i could say that they werent hurt many times. i wish i could say that their health wasnt affected by this behavior. but i cant. what i can say though is that with ardent prayer and faith that they could turn their life around if only they would accept a different kind of "cool", they did stop. they saw the error of their ways. they matured. they looked deep down inside for the reasons that they would continue to drink. i wish i could say that it was something i did physically but it wasnt. it was being a good friend through it all and PRAYING. sometimes the physical things, although powerful and somewhat helpful, dont always work. calling the cops may have them drop you as friends, and thats okay because youre doing it for their health. but it might not be enough. you have to be strong and fight it both physically and spiritually. Ask God to help!! i feel like i havent worded any of this the way i wanted to but maybe i will be able to explain better if someone finds something wrong with it. anyway, its a hard situation and you may lose friends. they may come back though too. mine did. they will respect you most likely in the end for your courage and your love for them... props to you for wanting to do something to help them. youre a good friend God bless, Laura Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I know...... ...and you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 The things worth while in life are never easy to do. It takes guts, and Im so proud of you that you have resolved to be strong. I agree with Laura, who is cool cause we share a name. Be a beacon for your friends, and pray. Dont quit on them. You always told me you were the conscience of your posse. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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