Death Penilty (lol i cant spell sorry)

[Iacobus]

G-Freak12,

I think the DP is wrong because the society here has reached the point where it can police herself without it.

The DP is not murder unless an inconnet man is killed and they know he is not guilty.

Justice Holmes once said, "Tis better for 9 guilty men to go free than for one inccoent man to suffer wrongly," and this is a lot of how the US Justice system is set up.

[G-Freak12]

Mrs Bro Adams,I do aggree that it doesnt give her the right to murder her step-father but think for a moment what it would be like to be in her shoes; Sexually abused and raped for all of her childhood, and you dont know Jesus Christ as your family is not Christain... what would you do if u were her? how would you end your pain?

[G-Freak12]

If you were mentally handicapped and you were brought up in a violent home in which you were taught that if someone makes you angry or annoys you, you hurt them, then I'm sure you would be brain washed into thinking that hurting people is right...

[Phazzan]

[quote]Hey y'all sorry I havent posted in a long time I've just been really busy with school and such.... Anyways I just read a few posts here about the death penalty (GAH I CANT SPELL) I am 100% completly AGAINST it, for a few reasons; number one because the bible says "thou shall not kill" [/quote]

Then why did God instruct us to execute those who committed things like having sex with aminals etc huh? HUH? That's killing, and it's in the same book, EXODUS! So there! OWNED!

As for your other arguements, usually people with mental disorders know what they're doing when they do it, just cause you have a mental disorder doesn't mean you don't know the difference between right and wrong. That's what some misunderstood dweebs think, but they're wrong cause they're unlearned. The only time a person guilty of murder shouldn't be sent to jail (in this case a mental institution) or punished in some form is when they're declared INSANE, as in not knowing the difference between right and wrong!

As for the wife beating arguement, the Bible says it is good for women who are beaten to stay with their hubbies and tolerate the abuse, it doesn't say anything about the right to kill them. That and your original comments on murder and death penatly make this arguement quite stupid and contradictory. It's like you're saying murder don't deserve the death penalty but wife beating does. Stupid.

[quote]what would you do if u were her? how would you end your pain? [/quote]

Leave. What would you do, murder? But teh Bible sez thou shall not kill!

Sorry for my uncharitable comments, but I found your post irritating.

God bless
Phazzan

[G-Freak12]

Why does God tell us to kill someone who had sex with a animal? Why would someone want to do something as stupid as that anyway? another thing WHY DOES GOD SAY TO STAY WITH YOUR HUSBAND IF HE'S ABUSING YOU!?!??!?!??!

[G-Freak12]

isnt saying that a woman should stay with her husband if he's abusing her the same as saying a child who is getting abused should stay with the parents and not seek any help?

[G-Freak12]

I'm saying that the stepfather who raped her shouldnt of gotten arrested for only 6 months while she is getting arrested for 7 years its not fair that she had to go through all that pain just for him to go to jail for 6 MONTHS!! if i were that judge i would put him in jail for 7 years and put the woman in jail for 6 months

[IcePrincessKRS]

Number one: The Church, the Bible, and the Catechism disagree with those who say that the death penalty is 100% immoral and/or should be completely abolished. Yes, the Pope said that the need for is is "practically non-existant" but PRACTICALLY does not equal "non-existant." The instances where it is absolutely required may be rare but they do exist. You can hold the opinion that the death penalty is not necessary in the USA until you're blue in the face, that is perfectly acceptable, but claiming that it is immoral goes against what the Church actually teaches. Do a search, you'll find half a dozen threads where this topic has been debated inside and out.

[quote]2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and are more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically non-existent."[/quote]

Number two: Since this is a duplicate topic shouldn't it be closed?