popestpiusx Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Oct 15 2004, 07:42 PM'] The Church is not against the death penalty and neither am I. You take a life, you forfeit your own. [/quote] Mark it the phatmass history books: cmom and I are 100% in agreement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) death penalty is only just if it is for the common good Edited October 16, 2004 by Noel's angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) "Whoever strikes a man a mortal blow must be put to death. He, however, who did not hunt a man down, but caused his death by an act of God, may flee to a place which I will set apart for this purpose. But when a man kills another after maliciously scheming to do so, you must take him even from my altar and put him to death. [Exodus 21:12-14] Many confuse the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill," by separating it from the rest of Scripture that gives it its proper understanding. Edited October 16, 2004 by Noel's angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='Noel's angel' date='Oct 16 2004, 08:29 AM'] death penalty is only just if it is for the common good [/quote] When a prisioner who is murdered keeps murdering in prison he deserves the death penalty. The Church is not aganist the death penalty. Cardinal George said nothing so concetrates your mind as a sentence of death [paraphrased]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='FutureSoror' date='Oct 16 2004, 12:07 AM'] I agree with Raphael. For my part, if I had to choose yes or no I'd have to say yes, because I don't think it's intrinically wrong. I think that it should be kept to what's necessary, though. In this country we have enough super-high security prisons to take care of those people. [/quote] If you ask a prison guard, he will tell you high security prisons are quite dangerous places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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homeschoolmom Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Oct 15 2004, 05:46 PM'] I am 100% in favor of the death penalty for all crimes, including, but not limited to, speeding tickets and jaywalking. [/quote] Wow... I'm glad you're not in charge... You're not, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea348 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I do not believe in the death penalty. I believe that we have no right to decide if a crime someone commits is worthy of death. Death is an extreme measures and cannot be taken back. I think it is best to leave it up to God what their punishment will be. There have also been cases where innocent people have been put to death. That just makes me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmeister2 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 As I said before, the death penalty is only good when there is no other way to contain the murderer, and with the amount of technology, and money, that the US has, there are virtually no cases where it is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazzan Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='drewmeister2' date='Oct 16 2004, 10:33 AM'] As I said before, the death penalty is only good when there is no other way to contain the murderer, and with the amount of technology, and money, that the US has, there are virtually no cases where it is good. [/quote] No ever said the death penalty is a "good" thing, but in certain cases it is just and deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I support the judicious use of the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly_freak Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='Andrea348' date='Oct 16 2004, 10:27 AM'] I do not believe in the death penalty. I believe that we have no right to decide if a crime someone commits is worthy of death. Death is an extreme measures and cannot be taken back. I think it is best to leave it up to God what their punishment will be. There have also been cases where innocent people have been put to death. That just makes me sick. [/quote] AMEN SISTA!!! saddly it looks like we are the only ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='drewmeister2' date='Oct 16 2004, 12:33 PM'] As I said before, the death penalty is only good when there is no other way to contain the murderer, and with the amount of technology, and money, that the US has, there are virtually no cases where it is good. [/quote] WE do not have the technology or the money to safely control the prison population. Ask any wife and kids of a murdered or disabled guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmeister2 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Oct 16 2004, 10:10 AM'] WE do not have the technology or the money to safely control the prison population. Ask any wife and kids of a murdered or disabled guard. [/quote] Well, we did have the money, until we wasted it on Iraq. And we are the most technologically advanced nation in the world. Yes, we can lock them up, we just need better security guards. It surprises me how well the Soviets could run the Gulag, and although they probably had problems with prisoners every now and then, the guards ruled with force. I talked to a former prison guard, who now works as a security guard at our school, and the only reason why guards get hurt is because they become too lax. They start becoming friendly towards the prisoners, start having regular conversations with them, and then the guards start letting their guard down (funny play on words), and then that is when prison riots happen. He told me one story where he was working and the prisoners got out and killed other prisoners and prison guards. He lived. But he said the reason it happened was the guards just became too lax. It was their own fault for not making sure that they were strict with the prisoners. Maybe the prisons should hire people who just have no personality at all, and just hate the guts out of people like murderers, because then there would be no tendancy for laxness. Just some thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) o ok, let's take a page out of the soviet handbook... instead of the death penalty how bout we try creul and unusual punishment! errr... maybe not so much.. Edited October 16, 2004 by Aluigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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