Okay...

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

Except my music is more of the contemporary sound. They don't offer the kind of music I'd like to study at Fransican.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Oct 18 2004, 02:27 PM'] Except my music is more of the contemporary sound. They don't offer the kind of music I'd like to study at Fransican. [/quote]
I'll teach you Latin if you teach me piano.

[theculturewarrior]

[quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Oct 18 2004, 01:27 PM'] Except my music is more of the contemporary sound. They don't offer the kind of music I'd like to study at Fransican. [/quote]
Are you sure?

My understanding was that Franciscan was more of a contemporary type place. I figured if they did have a music program, it would be as contemporary as anywhere else.

But as with most things...Iunno. :noidea:

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

[quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 18 2004, 03:42 PM'] I'll teach you Latin if you teach me piano.







[/quote]
It's a deal! Does it have to be Latin though, don't you know any other languages?

[theculturewarrior]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Oct 18 2004, 01:49 PM'] Are you sure?

My understanding was that Franciscan was more of a contemporary type place. I figured if they did have a music program, it would be as contemporary as anywhere else.

But as with most things...Iunno. :noidea: [/quote]
They don't offer a music major at all!

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Oct 18 2004, 03:49 PM'] Are you sure?

My understanding was that Franciscan was more of a contemporary type place. I figured if they did have a music program, it would be as contemporary as anywhere else.

But as with most things...Iunno. :noidea: [/quote]
At least that's what my hubby told me.

[theculturewarrior]

[quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Oct 18 2004, 01:53 PM'] At least that's what my hubby told me. [/quote]
after looking at the website, it appears they don't offer a bachelors degree in music. Your husband is right.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 15 2004, 11:54 AM'] [/quote]


You truly walk with God!

Anything good I said to you was Christ...

I am sure that God is calling you to Him!

[Theoketos]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Oct 18 2004, 12:50 PM'] I'm going to the University of North Texas to study library science.



















[/quote]
One of my neighbors is studying there, and my fiance will be next year most likely...

[Thy Geekdom Come]

Okay...so...who wants to hear the essence of the conversation between my parents and me?

First, a little background...

Dad-cool guy, trusts me, knows that I know what I'm doing and knows how determined I am to follow God, even if in everything else I am terribly indecisive. He is relatively silent about my vocational matters, either because he knows I have his support and he doesn't need to say anything or because he fears my mother.

Mom-she's almost too many personalities to number...sometimes she's clear and decisive, other times, she's confused. Mom doesn't put much trust in God, but worries all the time about the pettiest of things (money, jobs, public appearance, etc). She tries to take all that she has to face in the world on herself without trusting God for support, and, of course, fails miserably, as would we all if we tried things that way. She's a hard-core independent woman...thinks the Church should back off her feminism (she's pro-life on abortion, but in favor of contraception, women priesthood, etc). She gets angry pretty easily and is very manipulative and uses guilt very well. Luckily, I've found the antidote. God has veto power.

Micah-both my brothers have ADD and other problems. My older brother has no common sense and my younger brother has emotional problems beyond those of the average teenager. The older is rational (save the obvious things), the younger is emotional. Anyway, this leaves me as the kid who has emotions, but is able to balance them with rationale...essentially, I'm the best bet for going out and being the bread-winner for the family. If either of my brothers tried the things I have as far as going into the world, either he would die of starvation because he didn't know how to use the microwave, or he would start a fire (possibly involving the microwave). Naturally, this means that my father, with his personality, wants me to go out and be my own man, do what I want to do, and never look back. My mother, with hers, on the other hand, wants me to go out, make a bunch of money, and take care of her and my father the rest of my life (which I wouldn't mind doing, except that she wants me to get into a job where I make a fortune instead of one where I'm happy and doing God's work). My mother's need for this may be because she dropped everything and took care of her parents (both with Alzheimer's) for many years.

So...the conversation was mostly, italics are what I was thinking, but didn't say:

Mom: Why would you want to go to Steubenville?

Micah: [insert explanation from beginning of thread here]

Mom: So why can't you stay and get your degree there?

Micah: I can. I'm only certain that I am being called to grad school at Steubie, but I am feeling very called to transfer for undergrad, also. I'm just not certain of that much, yet.

Mom: So why don't you finish your degree at UNL?

Micah: Well, because one of my teachers is a Unitarian who insulted the pope (which I can deal with) and another is a sex-crazed sociopath (who teaches Latin Vulgate, so I can't take it, in addition to other courses).

Mom: Okay...so does Steubie offer a Latin degree?

Micah: No, they offer a classics degree...mostly Latin and Greek.

Mom: I'd much rather you get the Latin degree.

Micah: The classics degree will get me more money.

*silence*

[interesting to note...the mention of more money, as trivial as it is to me, shut her up on the degree issue]

Mom: Well, what about the cost? How much is Steubie?

Micah: Not too much more than UNL. Remember the Franciscans are running it...that removes a lot of cost.

Mom: Well, you're going to have to look for scholarships.

Micah: Okay mom. [i]Like I hadn't thought of that...[/i] I will have to work and take out more loans, too.

Mom: We're really worried about all these loans.

Micah: [i]It's an investment, mom...you have to spend money to make money...[/i] Yeah, I know.

Mom: I mean, your father and I are cosigners on these loans...

Micah: [i]And if you cared more about saving for your children's future than about collecting antique pump organs, victrolas, pianos, leather furniture, tiger oak furniture, and maintaining an unnecessarily large house while looking for a lakeside home, that wouldn't be such a problem...[/i] I know.

Mom: Well...you're going to get a lot of debt.

Micah: I know. [i]Near $100,000 worth by the end...but once I get my masters, I can help teach as an assistant professor, and the grants I get will help pay the loans really fast...besides...I'd rather sleep on a park bench if it's God's will...[/i]

Mom: So you really want to leave all those friends you have at the Newman Center?

Micah: [i]It's not like we don't live in the communication age...[/i] I'll still be their friend, but I'll have more friends at Steubie.

Mom: What if Steubie is like Conception and you don't make any friends?

Micah: [i]Yeah...a school of a couple thousand devout Catholics and I won't make friends...uh huh...[/i] I made friends at Conception.

Mom: You always complained about your social life there.

Micah: That doesn't mean I didn't have friends. The seminary was thirty miles from civilization and we were a hundred young men ping-ponging off the walls. Of course the social life wasn't that good, but I had friends.

Mom: Well, I don't like all this switching around. You need to settle down somewhere.

Micah: [i]I need to find where to settle down, first.[/i] I know.

Mom: I mean, how many credits are you losing when you transfer?

Micah: Not too many, actually.

Mom: Well, I don't think you know what you're doing. You are being indecisive again.

Micah: [i]I suppose [b]you've[/b] been discerning my vocation?[/i] No, I know what I'm doing and I am being decisive. For instance, I am 100% sure of myself. Is that the stance of an indecisive person?

Mom: But you're changing your goals.

Micah: [i]This coming from the woman who tried to keep me in seminary by manipulating me there...to have a priest for a son would have been very good for her and she was distressed that I was leaving.[/i]No, I'm realizing my goals, one step at a time. If I were indecisive, I would be jumping from one path to another, but this whole time I've been following God's plan. While each step may be entirely different from the last, all the steps are in the same direction and on the same path.

*silence*

Mom: Well...I guess you just have to do what you think is right.

Micah: [i]I've been telling you that the whole time...[/i] Yep.

Mom: Okay...well...I love you.

Micah: [i]Boy, that sounded stressed and manipulative.[/i] I love you, too, mom.







ARGH! :angry:

[Piccoli Fiori JMJ]

Gotta love Mom!

[theculturewarrior]

I'm a mamma's boy. Sorry, I just can't relate. My mom is the coolest.

Listen to your mom. I'm not saying surrender to your mom. Just listen. Moms can surprise you. And just from what I've read, she does have some good points. You could end up in a lot of debt, with a low paying job, and your parents footing the bill. I'm not saying don't reach for your dream.

I'm just saying listen to your mom. The Bible says to.

[IcePrincessKRS]

Moms.... we're such a pain in the neck....

[Piccoli Fiori JMJ]

My mom doesn't want me to become a nun I listen to her, but I don't follow everything she tells me...

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Oct 18 2004, 03:36 PM'] I'm a mamma's boy. Sorry, I just can't relate. My mom is the coolest.

Listen to your mom. I'm not saying surrender to your mom. Just listen. Moms can surprise you. And just from what I've read, she does have some good points. You could end up in a lot of debt, with a low paying job, and your parents footing the bill. I'm not saying don't reach for your dream.

I'm just saying listen to your mom. The Bible says to. [/quote]
Oh, I listen to her. I just don't think she has my interests, or more importantly, God's interests, at heart. She's the type of person who asks what God can do for her.

The fact of the matter is that I have to honor her, but I can honor her far more by following God's will, even if it means disobeying her, and becoming a saint that way. St. Francis rejected his father's will for him very radically, and look how he was rewarded. My parent's won't be footing the bill. I checked into it. Furthermore, it really isn't much more than my current college. In fact, all things considered, it's a far better deal. It's a chance to get an education at a school in the top tier of the US News and World Report college guide (UNL isn't even close), to be educated by teachers who took the mandatum and who will respect my religion (naturally), it will improve my character in line with Catholic morality and it will give me greater insight into God's plan for my life, as well as giving me a foot in the door of Catholic universities for teaching positions. For a few thousand extra per year, plus the fact that I can do work-study, that is very much worth the switch.