voiciblanche Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 [quote]That's why I fight against poverty. That's why I fight to clean up the environment and protect this earth. [/quote] [quote]That's why I fight for equality and justice. All of those things come out of that fundamental teaching and belief of faith. [/quote] So, it's okay to use his beliefs when it comes to poverty and environment, but not when it comes to babies? Oh, and I will not acknowledge the fact that he "fights for equality and justice" when he takes them both away from the unborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 [quote name='aragorn' date='Oct 14 2004, 03:18 AM'] Taxes serve a purely secular function-- not moral or religious. This answer is self-evident so i didn't want to bother with it If you liked my liberalist rhetoric, you can read some more of it. There's quite a lot of liberalist rhetoric spewed in the Bible: [url="http://home.snu.edu/~hculbert.fs/poor.htm"]http://home.snu.edu/~hculbert.fs/poor.htm[/url] Millionaires & Christians: An Alliance for BUSH 2004. [/quote] Perhaps I have not made myself clear... I will now post a question, so simple that even you should be able to understand it: Mr. Kerry says that he cannot legislate his beliefs on others. Mr. Kerry beleives that the rich should pay high taxes. Mr. Kerry legislates and advocates high taxes for the rich. How is this not hypocritical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 [quote name='shelly_freak' date='Oct 14 2004, 03:48 PM']I used to be one of those too -_- [/quote] Maybe someone can clue me in on the secret, coz I still am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Oct 14 2004, 03:53 PM'] cmom, if the pen is mightier than the sword, then I equate your keyboard as being the big red "nuke" button. My hero! [/quote] Feel free to quote me Edited October 14, 2004 by cmotherofpirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Oct 14 2004, 06:45 PM'] Maybe someone can clue me in on the secret, coz I still am! [/quote] Well, none of us is perfect, but just as [i]fear of the Lord is the first stage of wisdom[/i], so I would say that willful submission (a fruit of fear of the Lord) is the first stage of conversion. Begin to do an examination of conscience every night, if you don't already. Notice where your actions conflict with the Gospel, and resolve to change them. Ask for the merits of Christ's Passion and Death to help you to resist sin always and no matter what, so that you may submit humbly to God. Empty yourself and you will have more room within for God to fill you with His presence. Humility is the first step. I learned it the hard way and I still struggle with it. I say this not to exult myself, I am no saint, but only to exult you, for you, having been made by Christ for glory, are worthy of exultation, but at God's Hands, not at your own. Remember that faith is a journey, not a destination. Our destination is Heaven, and the Via Dolorosa is the road to it, the hill of Calvary the steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 i am a bad catholic. There. I said it and I said it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Man, Kerry is unwise about his beliefs, but the LORD still loves him. I pray that he learsn the errors of his ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-ster Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='T-Bone' date='Oct 14 2004, 05:41 PM'] Perhaps I have not made myself clear... I will now post a question, so simple that even you should be able to understand it: Mr. Kerry says that he cannot legislate his beliefs on others. Mr. Kerry beleives that the rich should pay high taxes. Mr. Kerry legislates and advocates high taxes for the rich. How is this not hypocritical? [/quote] T-Bone: I hope you're not holding your breath waiting for Aragorn to answer. Extreame leftists will never answer a question they're not allowed to spin out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote]Why doesn't he have the guts to say, "I'm a disobedient Catholic" or "I'm a 'Catholic,' but I disagree with the teachings on abortion"?[/quote] Votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Kerry: [quote]I believe that choice is a woman's choice. It's between a woman, God and her doctor. And that's why I support that. [/quote] Very simply: Murder is not a right, nor is it a woman's legal choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='aragorn' date='Oct 14 2004, 02:18 AM'] Taxes serve a purely secular function-- not moral or religious. This answer is self-evident so i didn't want to bother with it [/quote] The power of government to tax citizens is meant to serve the maintenance of the common good, and so taxes do concern the moral sphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 If murder is a legal choice most women I know would start with their husbands. Then the husbands would demand equal rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly_freak Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Oct 16 2004, 09:35 AM'] Kerry: Very simply: Murder is not a right, nor is it a woman's legal choice. [/quote] then why is it that everyone believes in the death penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 The death penalty is not murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 because that's not [u]murder[/u] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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