Noel's angel Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 :fluffy air extraction: :fluffy air extraction: :fluffy air extraction: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 [quote name='Norseman82' date='Oct 9 2004, 02:12 PM'] When Kerry said that, I actually farted..... I guess you had to be there... [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 [quote name='Norseman82' date='Oct 9 2004, 02:12 PM'] When Kerry said that, I actually farted..... I guess you had to be there... [/quote] :rotfl: :thatsfunny: Oh man, if you'd actually have been there in person and farted, I bet the reaction would've been priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 [quote name='Dave' date='Oct 9 2004, 02:57 PM'] :rotfl: :thatsfunny: Oh man, if you'd actually have been there in person and farted, I bet the reaction would've been priceless! [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 :rotfl: :thatsfunny: :thatsfunny: :haha: :haha: :cheer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Oct 9 2004, 10:28 AM'] Gasp! When he said this part he basically said that Religion is not reasonable and that is why he can not vote on it. Translation If my my faith was arbitrary, then I would not let it affect me pesonally either, espcially in the political realm. I Respect your Lunacy as well Kerry, I Respect that you need not to be President. [/quote] Yeah, I was really annoyed last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 [quote name='Norseman82' date='Oct 9 2004, 01:12 PM'] When Kerry said that, I actually farted..... I guess you had to be there... [/quote] :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 (Good Friday) [quote] First of all, I'd think it would be more important that children have a home than the morals they're going to be given. The simple fact of the matter is that there are too many heterosexuals who are too selfish to adopt children, and if we don't allow homosexuals to start adopting children in many states, then they're simply going to be shipped from foster home to foster home. Is that an acceptable alternative to a stable, loving home? [/quote] 1: Many foster parents end up adopting children. In fact, my nephew was almost adopted by his foster parents several years back. I'd rather have a child of mine in a Foster Home with a mother and father, than I would have it adopted by homosexuals living that lifestyle. If the point of children being given by God is to raise them to serve Him, then how can a homosexual partnership raising a child accomplish that? Simply, they can't. I'm not anti-homosexual, but I am anti-homosexual partnerships. God has told man to cling to woman, and woman to cling to man. Any homosexual relationship contridicts the command given by God to cling to one another, to become one, and to proceate. (Good Friday) [quote] Secondly, your assertion that homosexual persons contradict who God is -- practically saying that we are not made in the image and likeness of God -- is contrary to Catholic teaching, which says that all people, even gay people, are made in the image and likeness of God. Other than that, I'm not even going to dignify it with a further response. [/quote] 2: I did not say that homosexuals were made in the image of God, what I said is that their lifestyle contridicts who and what God is and wants us to do, which is serve Him, whether it be through a single lifestyle, or a marriage (man and woman) lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voiciblanche Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 [quote name='Good Friday' date='Oct 9 2004, 02:47 AM'] Is that his answer? According to STOPP, during the 2002-2003 fiscal year, Planned Parenthood received $254.4 million from the federal government, which accounts for about 33% (1/3) of its income. This is not down from 1999 (the Clinton Administration), when they also estimated that federal funding made up about 1/3 of Planned Parenthood's income. Sources: [url="http://www.all.org/stopp/rr0404.htm"]Here[/url] and [url="http://www.all.org/stopp/rr9902e.htm"]Here[/url]. That may be his answer when he's speaking to voters who don't know better, but his real answer is that he hasn't decreased funding to one of the nation's largest abortion providers, and that Planned Parenthood is still receiving the same amount of funding as it did under the Clinton Administration. So let's sum up. Even though President Bush believes that a culture of life is really important to have, he has maintained the same amount of funding to Planned Parenthood -- the largest abortion provider in the country. He passed a partial-birth abortion ban that everyone knew would be overturned, a bill that everyone knew would not prevent a single abortion. He supported the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, a bill that had nothing to do with abortion and wouldn't have increased the penalty for murderers. President Bush has failed the pro-life cause during his four years. The biggest remaining hope of pro-lifers is that President Bush will appoint pro-life justices to the Supreme Court of the United States. But he didn't appoint pro-life justices to the Texas Supreme Court, and tonight he wouldn't promise to appoint pro-life justices to the U.S. Supreme Court. [/quote] Assuming all of this is true, what would Kerry do that would be any better? I mean, if the federal gov't gives $254 million to Planned Parenthood now, wouldn't Kerry make sure they received three times as much if and when he's the president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voiciblanche Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 [quote name='Good Friday' date='Oct 9 2004, 10:02 AM'] Ask Judie Brown from the American Life League if President Bush is pro-life, and if he has upheld pro-life values. I think she'd disagree with you. In fact, she already has -- publicly, and more than once. [/quote] If you're going to attack Bush's morals, I'd like to hear what your alternative is. Kerry? How does Kerry have morals any better than Bush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 its not about morals. you could have the most perfect morals ever but if you take no action, its as though you had no morals. the question is not who goes to church more, who is more popular in religious circles, or who wears his faith on his sleeve more ... the question is [b]who is more competent to make decisions and take action to make our country better![/b] look at the status quo, we're in a mess. massive deficit, unnecessary war, the blood of thousands of people are on the hands of this president, our enemies have been strengthened, terrorism has increased, we're less safe, anti-Americanism has been inflamed, children are left behind while CEOs are enjoying their massive tax break.... look at the record and question competency... its not even a contest. For a better America: KERRY 04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 [quote]... the question is [b]who is more competent to make decisions and take action to make our country better![/b][/quote] Hehehe...that's not a question...it's an exclamation...hehehe... [quote]look at the status quo, we're in a mess. massive deficit[/quote] Business 101: You can't make money without spending money first. [quote]unnecessary war[/quote] Debatable. [quote]the blood of thousands of people are on the hands of this president[/quote] I don't see the word "innocent" in there...defense is a moral cause for war. [quote]our enemies have been strengthened[/quote] How do you get that? We caught Saddam...we have bin Laden either dead or on the run... You know, terrorists kill themselves in order to kill others. They could all strike at once, and there would be hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, killed, and everyone would say that they got stronger...but they would all be dead...if there are no more, they aren't stronger... Similarly, you don't see their recruitment rates, but you only see the havoc the cause. What makes them appear stronger could in fact be destroying them completely from the inside. [quote]terrorism has increased[/quote] Evil always gets more drastic when it knows it is being defeated. [quote]we're less safe[/quote] How so? [quote]anti-Americanism has been inflamed[/quote] I'd rather it be inflamed than continue laying dormant. At least now we can see what we have to do. [quote]children are left behind[/quote] ??? [quote]while CEOs are enjoying their massive tax break....[/quote] By spending them trying to make more money, which means they are expanding their businesses, which means more jobs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Chances are, very little will change the mind of a Catholic voting pro-choice (and down the road, pro euthanasia, gay marriage, embryonic stem cells) when they could be voting for better candidates out there, right now. Save for one thing -- that little voice of doubt that sits in the back of your mind, that string that tugs on your heart that asks for you to consider the unborn, the sanctity of life, and what the Church truly asks of us. I advise any Catholic out there to sit and listen to what that small voice is trying to tell you. I tried to ignore that for the years I supported the Clinton presidency. You will hear it when you hold that pencil in the voting booth. It will not leave you alone, before, or after you cast your vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Business 101: whenever you spend money you don't have, things dont end up looking pretty. about 15,000 innocent Iraq civilians were killed as a result of the 'miscalculation' in invasion and post war planning. there is no excuse for this. how is killing FIFTEEN THOUSAND INNOCENTS justified? Raphael, how can you support widening the rich-poor gap? if the rich have more money (less taxes) they'll invest almost all of it to make themselves even richer. [i]I'd rather it be inflamed than continue laying dormant. At least now we can see what we have to do.[/i] you pretend there are only two options: [color=red][Edited by Raphael: We don't use that kind of language here][/color] the world or take a nap. that is fundamentally incorrect Jesus never NEVER EVER taught or even alluded that anyone is ever evil, per se. to lie to ourselves like this is preposterous and will only result in further demise. we have to look at why the terrorists struck us. and it seems like nobody does this. they attack us not because of who we are but rather what we've done. if we want to prevent a similar attack in the future we must modify what we do and how we do it. more of the same is a guarantee of failure. think!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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