Big Joe Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Scofizzle' date='Oct 5 2004, 01:54 PM'] Once again you have ignored everything I have said [/quote] He's ignored everything everyone has said. I think aragon might be a reincarnation of that Morph guy. Edited October 5, 2004 by Big Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 [quote name='Big Joe' date='Oct 5 2004, 03:00 PM'] I think aragon might be a reincarnation of that Morph guy. [/quote] No, I don't think it's Paul. Paul had a completely different style...much more in your face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 yeah, but u never know, Morph disappears and this guy turns up. i also have other suspicions, but i shall wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 [quote name='Noel's angel' date='Oct 5 2004, 03:40 PM'] yeah, but u never know, Morph disappears and this guy turns up. i also have other suspicions, but i shall wait and see [/quote] Morph doesn't post at these hours. He's Australian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Morph used to post at all hours, but im not going to accuse him falsely, i dont know who it is so therefore i cannot say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DancesforLove Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 So I can see you understand my view Micah. My family has always been and will be very patriotic and supported our president. LOL He does sound alot like Morph, wonder where he went anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 [quote name='DancesforLove' date='Oct 5 2004, 06:03 PM'] LOL He does sound alot like Morph, wonder where he went anyway... [/quote] I don't think it would be wise to speculate. Just leave it be. The MorphRC issue has been resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 [quote name='DancesforLove' date='Oct 5 2004, 12:54 PM'] Aragorn, I did read your first post and the other posts. I still disagree, even if the president can't say abortion is illegal, end of story, he still has a great deal of influence, that is the reason he is there. Also, I can tell you are a hardcore anti-Bush fan and probably are a Kerry fan. So, if you are here to inform us "uneducated Catholics" on how Bush is the devil and we should vote for anything but Bush. Or to lecture us on why abortion should be legal, your in the wrong place. Because we are not wishy-washy in our beliefs here so your not going to find a group of supporters here. I agree cmother he is the lesser of two evils so he would be the one to vote for. Because if you sit there and say ok, we can't vote for Kerry or Bush then our opinions aren't heard either way. Flip, I do think (and have expressed my opinion on this before) that abortion should be regulated. There are medical cases when abortion is the only choice. BUT I think it should be left strictly to medical cases and not left to immature teens who feel they have no choice or overworked businesswomen that are being "inconvenienced" by her pregnancy. [/quote] Abortion is never necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Oct 5 2004, 06:24 PM'] Abortion is never necessary. [/quote] Cmom is correct. The official position of the Church is that abortion is never moral. In certain medical circumstances, a procedure may be done to resolve the condition directly which may indirectly cause the death of the child. This is not an abortion. I'm fairly certain, however, that you don't mean to dissent from Church teaching. Many people misunderstand this teaching and think the Church advocates abortion in certain circumstances. I trust that you will put your faith in the Church and accept that abortion is [i]always[/i] wrong. Interestingly enough, St. Molla rejected even this practice and opted to save the child and die because of it, so while the Church sees it as moral, it may still not be a preferable treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DancesforLove Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 It is not techinically but your medical records will say it was an abortion, it is considered an abortion for medical reasons. If you miscarry a child it reads abortion on your records, my mom has had two miscarriages and they both say that. Those are abortions for medical reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 [quote name='DancesforLove' date='Oct 5 2004, 06:49 PM'] It is not techinically but your medical records will say it was an abortion, it is considered an abortion for medical reasons. If you miscarry a child it reads abortion on your records, my mom has had two miscarriages and they both say that. Those are abortions for medical reasons. [/quote] Well, what the medical records say and what it really is are two separate things. Miscarriages are involuntary abortions. They aren't what we mean by abortion in the moral sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DancesforLove Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 The term "Abortion" was not originally defined as killing a baby, it was actually any baby that was still born and things. (NOT bashing the Church) but the Church coined abortion as killing a baby when it was in the womb, it evolved from that. So people who support "Medical Abortions" are talking about a different thing than people attack them for (not talking about you attacking anyone Micah) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 [quote name='DancesforLove' date='Oct 5 2004, 06:54 PM'] The term "Abortion" was not originally defined as killing a baby, it was actually any baby that was still born and things. (NOT bashing the Church) but the Church coined abortion as killing a baby when it was in the womb, it evolved from that. So people who support "Medical Abortions" are talking about a different thing than people attack them for (not talking about you attacking anyone Micah) [/quote] I don't know the etymology of the word, just the current meaning and connotation and practical applications. In any event, the medical procedure we call "abortion" is always wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Blessed Be God!!! aragorn I just wanted to say thank you very much for changing your sig. I know you didn't have to so I really do appreciate it! And I wanted to say thank you for posting and giving your opinion. I personally do not agree with it, but that doesn't mean we have to stiffle everyone who has a diff. one. Thank you for sharing and please fill free to keep posting. God Bless Jason Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aragorn Posted October 6, 2004 Author Share Posted October 6, 2004 [quote name='RemnantRules' date='Oct 5 2004, 06:11 PM'] Blessed Be God!!! aragorn I just wanted to say thank you very much for changing your sig. I know you didn't have to so I really do appreciate it! And I wanted to say thank you for posting and giving your opinion. I personally do not agree with it, but that doesn't mean we have to stiffle everyone who has a diff. one. Thank you for sharing and please fill free to keep posting. God Bless Jason Gregory [/quote] Thank you. I haven't responded to specific posts because I feel that my earlier posts speak to the substance of all issues raised. I have refrained from being redundant. I bothered to sign up at this forum with only the intention of spreading information that I consider little-known and relevant. I felt obligated (by my studies in law and government) to share this information, which may be new or unfamiliar to some. As long as the information has reached an audience, I have done what I set out to do. I didn't come here to argue in circles endlessly. I have lain out information (and my personal reasoning), and it is yours to consider or ignore. This is not a referendum or popularity contest, but an introspective issue we should ponder individually. I merely wanted to provide information that you may not have known, so you may factor it into your personal decision. If you bother to remember the ways in which politicians are truly limited in controlling abortion, then I am grateful and my effort was successful-- regardless of your final vote. In any case, please know that I have offered this thread to inform, not to antagonize. Also, rest your doubts about my legal career; instead of working at a corporate firm last summer, I volunteered to work on cases for abused and orphaned children. God bless and take care. I'm out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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