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[quote name='MC Just' date='Sep 30 2004, 11:39 AM'] I hate the public school systems. When I was young I had to go to sex educatation classes, where they would say that masturbation is the "safest sex" it's "perfectly normal" and "ok".. [/quote]
I don't know if it's good or bad, but my classes have never touched the issue of contraception (we just learned the anatomy), although last year some company gave every student a set of emergency phone numbers (poison control, child abuse, ect.), and one of them was an "emergency contraception" hotline.






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[musturde]

Today my English teacher was mentioning mortal sins (since we were studying the vocab word "venial"). She couldn't come up with anything and was thinking so I mentioned "masturbation". She laughed and said that wasn't a mortal sin. She said that most of us would go to hell if that was true. I told her the Catholic Church has a document on it. Then she said the Catholic Church was being scrupulous then (She was trying to teach us our vocabulary and I she tried implying Scrupulous into the debate lol) I was trying to say that if you're unaware of a mortal sin or you're addicted to masturbation that it would be alright as long as you tried to stop but people kept interrupting me. In the end all the class thought Masturbation was normal and just a regular venial. I looked like an idiot. Well, I guess the theology class will clear this up later on.

[StColette]

[quote name='musturde' date='Sep 30 2004, 07:24 PM'] I told her the Catholic Church has a document on it. Then she said the Catholic Church was being scrupulous. [/quote]
Umm this is a Catholic school I gather ? does the classroom have a Catechism in it ? Or do you have one or your teacher for that matter ?

If so please show here these statements from the Catechism.

[i]2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action." "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices. [/i]

I take this matter very seriously especially since the teacher is saying that it is not a mortal sin, when the Church teaches that it is a mortal sin, plain and clear. It worries me that the class is going to go along with what the teacher says because teachers are viewed as an authority on subjects, and in Catholic schools students assume that their teachers know what the Church teaches.

Correcting the teacher on this matter is a good idea because of her error in this assumption that masturbation is not a mortal sin when in fact it is. She should be shown her error in a respectful way because if she continues to think that it is not a mortal sin and tells this to her classes which are full of young Catholics and not all of them will be entirely interested in knowing if her info is correct or not but rather they take it as a complete truth without even researching it.

So I suggest showing her the Catechism quotes I gave so that she will know that masturbation is a mortal sin.

God Bless,
Jennie

[musturde]

thanks.

[StColette]

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