Paladin D Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 They aren't human, so how are they saints? How am I to address someone who has a problem praying to angels specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 [quote name='Paladin D' date='Sep 29 2004, 11:11 AM'] They aren't human, so how are they saints? How am I to address someone who has a problem praying to angels specifically? [/quote] Because the Archangels are holy (i.e., saints). You can address the angels as "saint" or "holy" or just by their name, or in the case of your guardian angel, you can call him "guardian angel." If a person has a hard time understanding why we can pray to the angels, explain to them the nature of the communion of saints, which includes the angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 All angels in heaven are saints! Nowhere does it say a saint needs to be human. Angels are persons too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pio Nono Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 JMJ 10/4 - St. Francis of Assisi A saint is anyone in communion with God - are not the angels in communion with God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozencell Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 [quote name='Pio Nono' date='Oct 4 2004, 11:20 AM'] JMJ 10/4 - St. Francis of Assisi A saint is anyone in communion with God - are not the angels in communion with God? [/quote] In FULL communion with God - meaning in heaven with Him. It's safe bet that angels are saints. We would probably refer to all the other angels as St., too, if we knew there names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pio Nono Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 JMJ 10/5 - Twenty-seventh Tuesday [quote]In FULL communion with God - meaning in heaven with Him. It's safe bet that angels are saints. We would probably refer to all the other angels as St., too, if we knew there names. [/quote] No, a saint is anyone in communion with God. If we're in the state of grace, then you're a saint, I'm a saint, Pope John Paul II is a saint, &c. &c. We're not canonized as saints, but we are saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarf Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 If you recall the trial of St. Joan of Arc, you can not definitively label yourself or any other living person as being in a state of grace, lest you commit the sin of presumptuousness. All you can do is put forth a genuine effort to be so. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 St. Paul used the word saint the way we would use the word Christian today. as in, set apart and striving for holiness. but today the word saint is sanctified to specify those who are in heaven with God. we refer to people in the Church Militant as Christians and those in the Church Triumphant as saints (popular or unpoular (canonized/uncanonized)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 People that want to argue not praying to Angels... We see that David did: Psalm 103:20-21; 148:1-2 God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope St Clement 1 Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 [quote name='Aluigi' date='Oct 8 2004, 04:58 AM'] St. Paul used the word saint the way we would use the word Christian today. as in, set apart and striving for holiness. but today the word saint is sanctified to specify those who are in heaven with God. we refer to people in the Church Militant as Christians and those in the Church Triumphant as saints (popular or unpoular (canonized/uncanonized)) [/quote] I thought the word saint had 3 meanings and the context determined the meaning? The most common meaning being the canonised saints and the other two meanings being a) all those in heaven and b)all the faithful. Doesn't each English word have a number of meanings - a common meaning plus other meanings ? Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted October 8, 2004 Author Share Posted October 8, 2004 Awesome insights guys, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 ask questions in the apo board bro, since this really isn't a matter of debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarf Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Sure it is. You're all wrong! WRONG, I SAY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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