Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='Columcille' date='Sep 28 2004, 01:14 PM'] So your agruing that the ends justify any means? It's okay that they did immoral things to other companies so long as they produced a product that is "easy to use". [/quote] Welcome to Capitalism. I like it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columcille Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Capitalism doesn't have to be that way. There are lots of good people and good companies out there. But I've seen Microsoft from the other side, and know they are the antithesis to CCC 2424. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='Columcille' date='Sep 28 2004, 01:19 PM'] Capitalism doesn't have to be that way. There are lots of good people and good companies out there. But I've seen Microsoft from the other side, and know they are the antithesis to CCC 2424. [/quote] Yeah, well, I was mostly joking. I don't buy Microsoft products, actually, but that's because they support abortion. Qwest Communications isn't a good company either. My dad works there...they're not nice to their employees, but things are getting better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columcille Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I used to work for Qwest Myself. That's funny that it came up here I don't know if it still is this way, but when I worked there Microsoft owned a large chunk of Qwest stock. Not enough to be controlling, or anything, but It's funny how it all ties together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='Columcille' date='Sep 28 2004, 01:27 PM'] I used to work for Qwest Myself. That's funny that it came up here I don't know if it still is this way, but when I worked there Microsoft owned a large chunk of Qwest stock. Not enough to be controlling, or anything, but It's funny how it all ties together. [/quote] My dad's stuck in middle management at what used to be the USWEST building in Omaha, where he worked for 25 years, lol...but then Qwest bought it out and Joe Nachio (or, as my father calls him, Osama bin Nachio) drove the benefits into the ground. I could go on complaining about that company for quite a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Joe Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 1. Costs have not increased. Technology costs decrease over time 2. Bill Gates has enough money. There is no excuse for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 [b]Ironmonk[/b], I'm not a Microsoft hater (I know you didn't say it, though I just wanted to make sure). My views on Microsoft are a mix. On one hand Microsoft has done a lot of good, while on the other they can get annoying and seems as if they are trying to become a monopoly. Microsoft has it's positives and it's negatives. I haven't really track, or read a reliable source of Microsoft's history to really make an accurate judgement anyway. [quote]You just won't be able to use Outlook or Outlook Express to access the account for free... You'll still be able to access your hotmail account via the web at www.hotmail.com[/quote] I know I will still be able to access my hotmail accounts via the web, however it's much easier for me to check 3 hotmail accounts at one time (using Outlook Express). I can live with the change, but it'll make things a little harder on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aluigi Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 ok, word of advice: DONT CHANGE URE PM EMAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE REVALIDATION DOESNT WORK -Aloysius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 OOo, good thing you said something, Al. I've been wanting to change mine and get rid of my hotmail address altogether, but I wouldn't want to not be re-validated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='Columcille' date='Sep 28 2004, 02:14 PM'] So your agruing that the ends justify any means? It's okay that they did immoral things to other companies so long as they produced a product that is "easy to use". [/quote] No, I did not write that. It boggles my mind how some people put words between the lines of my writing that don't belong to the writing. What I'm saying IS THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW THEIR MOTIVATION OR WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. NONE OF US DO. YOU ARE JUDGING THEM. YOU ARE NOT GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. Paladin, You've have impressed me again. Your understanding and wisdom are developing very well and your maturity and objectivness in the matters of fact and truth are more mature and logical then many others that are twice your age. Microsoft is so huge that people in the middle could get away with all kinds of immoral actions. But of course, none of that is the point... my whole point was that Microsoft doesn't smell of elderberries... to smell of elderberries would mean that their products smell of elderberries. I'm sure you understand that the media and all who hate to see others do well, will of course attack MS with lies and distortions. It's possible that some of it is true, but without hearing the other side, basing a judgement on the entire company is simply foolish. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I think the Hotmail service as a whole, minus Passport, has been degraded ever since Microsoft took control. I liked the pre-Microsoft Hotmail much better. Anyone remember it? Now I have a non-Hotmail account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azaelia Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='Paladin D' date='Sep 28 2004, 03:04 PM'] On one hand Microsoft has done a lot of good, while on the other they can get annoying and seems as if they are trying to become a monopoly. [/quote] "Mr. Gates, when did you realize you were running a monopoly?" "Monopoly is just a game, Senator. I'm trying to control the world." (All hail Robin Williams ) [quote]Programs made for WinXP are much better than programs made for Linux.[/quote] I hate WinXP. It's slow. It's inefficient. It's annoying. I don't claim Microsoft is evil or immoral...just annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columcille Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I suppose we're just talking about different things then, and I'll admit some of their products are really quite good. On the other hand I won't admit that Linux is bad, because I use it everyday and find it quite useable and stable. It sounds like you haven't tried Linux in a while (Fedora has been the Red Hat release for some years), I recommend trying a current one before you judge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Ummmmmm were they not making enough money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rev Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='Aluigi' date='Sep 28 2004, 02:21 PM'] ok, word of advice: DONT CHANGE URE PM EMAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE REVALIDATION DOESNT WORK -Aloysius [/quote] Yeah I did that at another board, and now I can't post there! and they won't approve another account! GRRRRRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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