Deeds Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 "The risk of death from pregnancy-related conditions is 15 times greater than the risk of death from the patch, Biggers said." Point. Not that I approve of BC though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Abstinence has a 100% effective rate for preventing pregnancy and STD transmission. Side effects may include insanity and having to be locked away in the mental hospital for people who wait until marriage to have sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted September 24, 2004 Author Share Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='Deeds' date='Sep 24 2004, 03:13 PM'] "The risk of death from pregnancy-related conditions is 15 times greater than the risk of death from the patch, Biggers said." Point. Not that I approve of BC though. [/quote] Hmmm.... Abstinence. Zero percent chance of death from it. Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 [quote]Does anyone else not see a total resemblance to the tobacco industry here? "We'll just not tell the users of the possibly fatal side effects of our products."[/quote] I was thinking the same thing. I am glad to see that health watchdogs are monitoring the effects of hormone "treatments" like pills and patches. And I think as health hazards are made aware, it will make a difference, and I do think people will eventually listen. Especially as more and more people get sick from using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 (edited) If people could look at the results of PP, birth control, etc.; and not see the connection of divorce rates rising, more STDs and abortions, they must be the dumbest people on earth. The sexual revolution has not freed "humankind", it is slowly destroying it. Because there isn't a healthy view on human sexuality and relations, people are divorcing left and right. People are selfish! If people would stop focusing on themselves all the time, maybe so many marriages wouldn't be going down the tubes. When you use birth control in marriage, you objectify your spouse. Whether or not you intend to, you do. When people show lack of self control, they cheapen themselves and their spouse. When one can excercise self control, it builds so much trust within the relationship. When you can say, "No", it brings authenticity to your, "Yes." Back in the 60's, before the sexual revolution, there were 4 verneral diseases. Now, there are 100's. Duh! Because of free sex, these diseases are spreading like wildfire. And dont think that condoms will control it, condoms rip, slip, and are something people don't use anyway because they must be cumbersome. All kidding aside, STD's are a real danger. NFP is such a wonderful way of life, because you learn how to exercise self control. Abstinence is the best way for people to stay pure and unburdened. If people would just support abstinence, and take care of women who were in unwanted pregnancy, there would no more abortions. There'd be less pain. If people could just learn to not have sex whenever they feel the urge... Edited September 24, 2004 by Luthien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeds Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Kilroy the Ninja' date='Sep 24 2004, 09:16 PM'] Hmmm.... Abstinence. Zero percent chance of death from it. Point. [/quote] Obviously. That doesn't refute what the man said though. I assume most people here view pregnancy as a good thing - however, a higher death rate arises from pregnancy than from using the patch. So do you want people to abstain as long as they live? What can I say, I like being devil's advocate. I'm not saying BC is good - I'm against it. Edited September 24, 2004 by Deeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Death rates in pregnancy vs. this method of birth control can't really be used as a justification for birth control. Instead, it should be compared to NFP. NFP is cheaper, as effective (or more effective than some methods of BC), and won't put chemicals in your body that mess with your body chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 birth control kills the babies and their mothers so its more like people control then birth control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='Deeds' date='Sep 24 2004, 03:58 PM'] Obviously. That doesn't refute what the man said though. I assume most people here view pregnancy as a good thing - however, a higher death rate arises from pregnancy than from using the patch. So do you want people to abstain as long as they live? What can I say, I like being devil's advocate. I'm not saying BC is good - I'm against it. [/quote] there is nothing that can justify Birth Control since it kills unborn children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanvean Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 sighs. Typical... it's horrible to see how the pharmaceutical industry and medicine act these days. Today, I went to see a doctor. One of her first questions was whether or not I was taking any form of birth control, since that could cause some of the problems I have been having. I said no. Five minutes later, she gave me two options: 1. Start taking birth control to possibly correct the problem(funny, since she originally thought birth control might be *Causing* the problem... I don't quite get the logic, there) 2. Take a higher dose of pain killers, and get screened for tumours/cysts/other funny things A.S.A.P. Hmm. -Veronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 sounds like a threat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I just had a realization that birth control is an inaccurate name. It's not birth control, rather it's pregancy control. It doesn't do anything to prevent giving birth to a child. Anyhow, birth control pills are effective at treating the SYMPTOMS of many problems. However, they more often than not do not treat the cause of the problems, but are sometimes credited for treating the problem. For example, many women in their teens have irregular cycles. Doctors will put them on birth control and 10 or so years later when she goes off the pills because she wants to have kids she has a normal cycle. However, many women don't go on birth control and their cycles end up regulating themselves. Also, there are much more effective and better treatments for problems birth control pills seem to fix that are much more direct and have fewer side effects. Let's go back to that woman who goes on birth control in her teens and goes off because she wants to have kids. It's somewhat likely that she'll have problems conceiving children. The chemical levels in the body have been manipulated to dangerous levels for so long that she very well could have kissed her chances of having kids goodbye because of extended use. But she might have a small chance of having kids, that is with the use of fertility drugs. And who makes the fertility drugs? The same pharmaceutical companies that make the birth control pills. I know that birth control is more than a money making scheme, but if the drug companies make it where you're always using one of their products, they're going to do their best to get you started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Good point... :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeds Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='littleflower' date='JMJ+Sep 24 2004, 10:14 PM'] there is nothing that can justify Birth Control since it kills unborn children. [/quote] I didn't say there was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='Deeds' date='Sep 24 2004, 04:40 PM'] I didn't say there was. [/quote] i was clarifying since this phorum is read by many ages and since you implied that BC is better since it "saves" from higher risks...i thougth i would comment im glad you agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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