ayed Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 In the name Of Allah , the Most Compassionate, the Most Gracious Sorry for being too late due to my parents’ conditons. Hi! My forumpals ?are you right? I hope that . First and the last thing I would say is : I am very sorry for being busy with much work and I was translating from some Arabic sources which took some time . In reply to my forummate’ question ,Mr. Willguy and his question is this: Willguy:”Why would Jesus, who in Islam is only a prophet, have such a blessing as be born of a virgin with one to foretell his coming and Mohammed, Islam's greatest prophet, be born a normal birth? Ayed: As far as I understood your question, let us trace back to past events : >Allah created Adam parentless out of fistful of earth -- clay >>Allah created Eve unparented out of Adam’s left lower rib, >>>Allah created Iesa(Jesus) fatherless .Allah sent the Archangel, Gabriel in a shape of man carrying Allah’s Word and threw it over the Virgin Maryam who got pregnant and gave birth to the prophet , Jesus(Allah’s peace be upon them). ------------------------------------------------------ >>>>As for the final prophet , Muhmmad’s birth(peace be upon him), there were some amazing events accompanied and took place the time of Muhammad’s birth such as: 1-Muhammad(peace be upon him) was born circumcised , 2-he was born cut-off umbilical cord . 3-Great palace of Chosroes--the king of Persia(Kisra) , shaked and trembled . 14 balaconies of the palace caved in , 4-Chosroes’ vault broke off , 5-Zoroastrian fires--Persia fires , that was burning since 1000 years , faded out and put off . 6-the day following , Idols built around Ka’abah , turned upside . 7-Sawa lake dried up or decreased (Sawa Lake is 33 kms to the west of Samawa .It is a wonderful freshwater lake in Iraq), 8-Samawah river flooded .And more than this... the Holy Qur’an says “And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allâh unto you confirming the Taurât [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed But when he (Ahmed ie Muhammad SAW) came to them with clear proofs, they said: "This is plain magic"(As-saff, 61 , 6) Ayed ayed4all@hotmail.com reference : (The Beginning & The End--Albidayah wannihayah) By Ibn Katheer , Vol 1-2(The beginning of Creation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 How are your parents doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 ayed, no need to apologize. Your parents are much more important than answering a question from me. How are they? Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. Peace and God Bless, Willguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INRIWarrior3 Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Just for the sake of informing you ayed of what our faith says about your faith's teaching on Jesus: (ayed) Allah created Iesa(Jesus) fatherless .Allah sent the Archangel, Gabriel in a shape of man carrying Allah’s Word and threw it over the Virgin Maryam who got pregnant and gave birth to the prophet , Jesus. The Gospel of John in the first chapter says that it is Jesus who is the Word of God, the Incarnate Word. It is the Holy Spirit, as the Gospel of Luke proclaims, that overshadows the Virgin and thus conceives Christ. Thanks for the info. though. Its always good to have dialogue with people of faith. Peace, Wisdom, and Love in Christ always: Chadd Christopher "Warrior" "Christ-bearer" INRIWarrior3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 1-Muhammad(peace be upon him) was born circumcised , 2-he was born cut-off umbilical cord . 3-Great palace of Chosroes--the king of Persia(Kisra) , shaked and trembled . 14 balaconies of the palace caved in , 4-Chosroes’ vault broke off , 5-Zoroastrian fires--Persia fires , that was burning since 1000 years , faded out and put off . 6-the day following , Idols built around Ka’abah , turned upside . 7-Sawa lake dried up or decreased (Sawa Lake is 33 kms to the west of Samawa .It is a wonderful freshwater lake in Iraq), 8-Samawah river flooded .And more than this Good to hear that things are getting better for you, Ayed. In regards to what you posted. What is the evidence that this happened, besides for Muhammad saying so? Was this prophisied at all in the past. All of the major events that occured in the life of Jesus were prophesied to occur. There was pre-evidence that Jesus was the Messiah. Whereas with Muhammad, I don't believe anything was said about him. Please clarify... Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayed Posted September 26, 2003 Author Share Posted September 26, 2003 Thank you Jake Heuther , Before I go on and jump into deep discussion with you about prophet, Muhammad(peace be upon him)let me ask you before: 1-Do you believe in Muhammad ? 2-Is he mentioned in your holy books? Thank you in advance Ayed ayed4all@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Thank you Jake Heuther , Before I go on and jump into deep discussion with you about prophet, Muhammad(peace be upon him)let me ask you before: 1-Do you believe in Muhammad ? 2-Is he mentioned in your holy books? Thank you in advance Ayed ayed4all@hotmail.com Ayed, I do believe that Muhammad existed, though I don't necessarily believe that he was a prophet. As a Catholic, I believe that Jesus is the Messiah, and as such, I cannot believe in a religion that places him at the level of prophet alone. Muhammad isn't mentioned in our Bible. Hope to hear back from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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