Catholic Hardcore Band

[yomichael]

There are no catholic bands that sound like Pillar or Lynkin Park. We really need to start one. :headbang:

[toledo_jesus]

do you think the angry sounds of bands like Linkin Park really jive with the Gospel? I don't think so. It would be like a priest screaming his Homily.

[fueledbyELOHIM]

I think that's a dope idea...

As a matter of fact...I'll be working with a local band here in AZ...I think we might try to work somethin' out like the sound of Linkin Park, maybe...

They're a dope band...

[yomichael]

[quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Sep 19 2004, 07:36 PM'] do you think the angry sounds of bands like Linkin Park really jive with the Gospel? I don't think so. It would be like a priest screaming his Homily. [/quote]
Angry sound????????????????????????????????????????????????
Look at Pillar, Petra, Bride, Relient K, Everyday Sunday, Father Fortuna's Unbord victoms of violance, Righteous B yells alot in his raps.
We have to meet some of these teens were there at, some like rap, some like punk, some like hardcore. I don't think it would be a bad idea to get a heavy Catholic band out there teens like.

[littleflower+JMJ]

have you heard seven sorrows? you can hear them on the jukebox

i want a catholic punk band lol :band:


and [b][color=blue]welcome [/color][/b]to phatmass yomichael!! :wave: :tiphat:

[Oik]

The main problem with any "hardcore" style catholic bands is that most the the kids into that music that play instruments are not interested in Catholicism or leading a holy life.

I have been trying for a long time to get a Catholic punk or hardcore band together, but the only other people interested (that can play instruments) are not catholic. I have even been in a couple of punk bands where I wrote the lyrics and they were unapologetically Catholic lyrics.

I was involved in the "punk rock" scene, studs and spikes and mohawks and plaid pants and all.

However, it was more about the music than is was about God, so I ended it.

I have never cared about the music, only the lyrics.

I have even gotten to the point now, where I can't listen to most music. It just doesn't do anything for me or for other people.

But, if God put's some rockin catholics in my life in the next seven years, I promise, you all will get your catholic punk band.

[DemonSlayer]

Yeah, we need more Catholic metal/HXC bands, if only I could play guitar well, I'd start one, a Catholic metalcore/death metal/black metal/grindcore/hardcore/prog metal hybrid band, with Catholic apologetic songs.

[rufiokicks]

I disagree with you Oik. Although there are plenty of kids that like metal and aren't Catholic, I know plenty that are as well. My closest friends at church are into metal and we still love Christ. My friend loves Metallica and Megadeth, it doesn't mean he's a bad person. He has one of the strongest faiths I know of. I think it would be awesome to see a hardcore Catholic band out there, it would certainly be a better influence than most secular music. From someone who's into the metal scene, a hardcore Catholic band is an excellent idea. It is in no way clashing with the gospel, it's just a different way to praise it.

[Scofizzle]

[quote name='Oik' date='Sep 19 2004, 11:31 PM'] The main problem with any "hardcore" style catholic bands is that most the the kids into that music that play instruments are not interested in Catholicism or leading a holy life.

I have been trying for a long time to get a Catholic punk or hardcore band together, but the only other people interested (that can play instruments) are not catholic. I have even been in a couple of punk bands where I wrote the lyrics and they were unapologetically Catholic lyrics.

I was involved in the "punk rock" scene, studs and spikes and mohawks and plaid pants and all.

However, it was more about the music than is was about God, so I ended it.

I have never cared about the music, only the lyrics.

I have even gotten to the point now, where I can't listen to most music. It just doesn't do anything for me or for other people.

But, if God put's some rockin catholics in my life in the next seven years, I promise, you all will get your catholic punk band. [/quote]
I think this is an unfair streoytpe of where kids are at. I work with kids that into that sound and listen to bands like linkin park b/c there is nothing out there that is comparable.

[i feel like im taking crzy pills]

What I want to know is why peope judge us for the types of music us teens like? I listen to rock, indie, emo, country, christian rock... and the list goes on. I love meaningful lyrics. The world is a better place cuz of music and it just rocks. I know that people think that because we follow Christ and have faith, that we can't possibly be into some of this hardcore music that is out there these days. I know that it is going to be hard to find and/or make a good hardcore Catholic group... But it can be done... hopefully soon...

[Oik]

RufioKicks, scofizzle, and I feel like in taking crazy pills, you gotta listen to what I am saying about it. There's a lot more to a band than just the finished product.

A band is a job. It is a reeeeeeeeeeaaally hard job to. It's alot easier for rappers and hip-hoppers and DJ's because they don't always have to accomodate five or six people with different mindsets, levels of interests, levels of spirituality, and talents. (cept for rap groups).

[quote]Although there are plenty of kids that like metal and aren't Catholic, I know plenty that are as well. My closest friends at church are into metal and we still love Christ. My friend loves Metallica and Megadeth, it doesn't mean he's a bad person. He has one of the strongest faiths I know of. I think it would be awesome to see a hardcore Catholic band out there, it would certainly be a better influence than most secular music. From someone who's into the metal scene, a hardcore Catholic band is an excellent idea. It is in no way clashing with the gospel, it's just a different way to praise it. [/quote]

The question is whether your friends play instruments and are commited to being subject to a band leader and lots of compromise. Also, are they willing to focus on a really small fan base with very few places to play and willing to put time in promoting and money into paying for merchandise that doesn't always sell.

[quote]I think this is an unfair streoytpe of where kids are at. I work with kids that into that sound and listen to bands like linkin park b/c there is nothing out there that is comparable.[/quote]

I didn't say anything about where the "kids" where at. Also, there is a reason there is nothing comparable, too much work for too less ministry. You will be more effective reaching kids with the stuggle to be holy than with the dumbing down of catholicism. Plus, these subcultures have to be your lifestyle, otherwise the "kids" will see right through you.

[quote]What I want to know is why peope judge us for the types of music us teens like? I listen to rock, indie, emo, country, christian rock... and the list goes on. I love meaningful lyrics. The world is a better place cuz of music and it just rocks. I know that people think that because we follow Christ and have faith, that we can't possibly be into some of this hardcore music that is out there these days. [/quote]

Everybody's going to judge you, whether they are catholic or not. The world is a unfair place, but we as catholics have an opportunity to experience the suffering of this world for a beautiful nad meaingful purpose, redemptive suffering. Most music doesn't offer that. You can listen to what ever music you want, but the closer the draw near to Christ, the less important the things that the world has to offer become, whether it's music or style of dress or money you make.

[L5]

Rev. Larebil by Critical Mass

Okay, so I'm biased...but check out the lyrics:

Hey Rev. Larebil
I think you've got it backwards
You philosophize, theologize, think you're wise
You claim Jesus Christ didn't rise

You have your Jesus-less seminar
How did you drift so far
Intellectualize, hypothesize, lobotomize
Your rhetoric makes me sick

It's time to take a stand,
Take a total stand now
Time to critically catechize with the Catholic know-how
Dwell deeply on the divine, drive out the demons inside
It's such a slippery slope, Satan's suicide slide
Break Beelzebub's bonds, believe and be reborn
Grasp God's Grace gratefully, the great gratuitous gift
We're the Lord's loyal laity, layin' the law down
Let's radically rock the roots, replace the rot with solid ground

Dr. Hypocritic Oath
You swore you'd do no harm
You sterilize, euthanize, infanticide
Your medicine tastes like poison

You may not like the message we teach or the words we speak
The way we live our lives and the way we preach
But after decades of your watered down voice, it's time listeners had another choice

The media grab a hold of your insanity
Headlines rage "Misguided Piety"
Even Thomas believed when he saw the hands
Jesus doesn't measure up to your demands
You use the abusive pseudo-clergy
To bash the entire male hierarchy
You say our sexual stand is out of fashion
So you can give in to your depraved passion
I'm so flippin angry at it all
When was it that you lost your call?
If you deny Tradition and the Church
Where is the foundation for your search?
You dis Confession and the Eucharist
But it's the altar of yourself that you've kissed
It's time for us to make our final stand
And crush all your false idols back to sand!

Hey Mr. Chameleon,
You want to lead our land
Your empty lies, compromise, virtue dies
You roll to the nearest poll
It's nothing but a game
You're really all the same
We sit there dumb, feel so numb, vote for scum
We feed the greed that you need

....

[rufiokicks]

[quote]The question is whether your friends play instruments and are commited to being subject to a band leader and lots of compromise. Also, are they willing to focus on a really small fan base with very few places to play and willing to put time in promoting and money into paying for merchandise that doesn't always sell.[/quote]

Yes, my friends do play instruments. They're the praise band for our youth group. They all have different influences and tastes, but they all love Christ and to celebrate him through music. They are willing to focus and compromise because they play once or twice a week and they have practice all the time. These boys are devoted to the music because it's their passion. God gave them the gift of music and they're using it. And yes, they do like hardcore. They have to focus on a small fan base because the only audience they've had is our parish. We've actually been invited to go play at svdp's lifeteen mass sometime. The problem is not finding people, the problem is the ignorant people that think the type of music played is limited to one theme. Catholic and hardcore can mix if the message is true and the audience is accepting. Be open people, Catholicism shouldn't be limited to the church.

[Oik]

Rufio, read my other posts. I was already in several christian bands and most of the lyrics for the bands were specifically Catholic because I wrote the lyrics. The issue isn't whether a Catholic Hardcore band or Catholic punk band can ever exist. The real issue is how effective would it be.

[BigM]

I like taking John Angotti's "Rise Up" music/CD and beefing it up a notch or two with a wall of 4x12 cabs. He is a great writer and composer but that low budget studio time sets his tunes on the back of the shelf... WLP, his publisher is more into selling sheet music than CD's... sad...