phatcatholic Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 kateri, how is this coming along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 that would explain why my church stopped doing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted October 6, 2004 Author Share Posted October 6, 2004 [quote name='phatcatholic' date='Oct 3 2004, 01:41 AM'] kateri, how is this coming along? [/quote] ummm ... poorly people are still trying to do it.... prayers please everyone for open hearts and open minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappie Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 This doesn't mention skits per se but is interesting none the less Liturgical Dancing ROME, OCT. 5, 2004 (Zenit.org).- Answered by Father Edward McNamara, professor of liturgy at the Regina Apostolorum Pontifical University. Q: Is so-called liturgical dancing allowed in English-speaking countries where traditionally dancing is not regarded as culturally proper? Can it be carried out during solemn occasions such as the celebration of the Mass? -- F.Y., Auckland, New Zealand A: The document that comes closest to being an official commentary on this theme hails from an essay published by the official organ of the then Congregation for the Sacraments and Divine Worship, Notitiae, 11 (1975) 202-205. This article is labeled as a "qualified and authoritative sketch." It is considered by the congregation as "an authoritative point of reference for every discussion on the matter." Therefore, it is commended for study by diocesan liturgical commissions and offices of worship. (The English translation below first appeared in The Canon Law Digest, Vol. VIII, pp. 78-82.) The article was later republished with permission in the April/May 1982 Newsletter of the Bishops Committee on the Liturgy of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, which consequently published directives that "all dancing, (ballet, children's gesture as dancing, the clown liturgy) are not permitted to be "introduced into liturgical celebrations of any kind whatever." Although not specifically mentioned in the instruction "Redemptionis Sacramentum," dance can be included in [b]the overall prohibition on introducing elements not contemplated by the liturgical books.[/b] On some recent occasions a certain form of dance has been introduced within the context of papal liturgies on the occasion of regional synods of bishops or canonization ceremonies. But these were usually associated with elements of African or Asian culture and are to be considered as special exceptions in virtue of the Pope's universal mission. On recent occasions Cardinal Francis Arinze, prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments, has publicly criticized certain forms of introducing dance into Western liturgy especially in forms which reduce the sacred rite to a spectacle. I am also aware that he has reiterated these criticisms privately to the bishops of several countries during their five-yearly "ad limina" visits to Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Interestingly enough, that same document bans holding hands during the Pater Noster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Oct 7 2004, 12:28 AM'] Interestingly enough, that same document bans holding hands during the Pater Noster. [/quote] it [i][b]bans[/b][/i] it? where in the document does it do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 There is no current document banning holding hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Well, maybe it was more that it says we shouldn't do it because of the fact that it causes a false sense of unity. It's been a while since I've seen anything on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 i was under the impression that the USCCB prefers the orans position, but holding hands is acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Yeah...it's true...Although, they used to say on their site that they recommended against holding hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 well, yup, the issue has been decided. my pastor sent me this email: About Liturgy. I will make ALL decisions concerning any changes that Life Teen may experience at the Sunday evening mass. I am allowing skits, announcements and even on occasion, an acted-out gospel when appropriate. We have cultivated this mass for years and it is doing well for the kids. I do not want to change anything that does not need to be changed. This determination is made by our Archbishop, then to me as his pastor of this community. So we CAN have acted out announcements after the prayer after communion…we may also invite the teens (and others) around the altar for the Eucharistic Prayer as mentioned in Cardinal Mahony’s letter to me giving me delegation to make that decision. We can ask our talented choir to perhaps write a new song incorporating their dismissal “the mass never ends…” as the Cardinal suggests. so, I feel called to humbly submit even if I don't agree. Please pray for me and my parish. thanks everyone for your help and support. i love you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 (edited) man, that's a little disheartening. your parish definitely needs prayers. i'm proud of you tho. you did the best you could to stand up for the Sacrifice of the Mass Edited October 18, 2004 by phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 thanks phat, i really appreciate that, its beena rough few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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