P3chrmd Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 How can I try to explain to someone what exaclty Mary sharing in Jesus' victory of Satan means? They asked me how Mary could share in his victory...whats the best way to answer? And how it relates to Gen 3:15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure of Ars Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I would say that all Christian's because we are a part of the body of Christ and because share in his sufferings (Col 1:24) will also share in Jesus' victory. But Mary did participate in Jesus’ victory in a unique way because through her yes she brought Christ the victor to the world and because by God’s grace she did not know sin. [quote] 410 After his fall, man was not abandoned by God. On the contrary, God calls him and in a mysterious way heralds the coming victory over evil and his restoration from his fall. This passage in Genesis is called the Protoevangelium ("first gospel"): the first announcement of the Messiah and Redeemer, of a battle between the serpent and the Woman, and of the final victory of a descendant of hers. 411 The Christian tradition sees in this passage an announcement of the "New Adam" who, because he "became obedient unto death, even death on a cross", makes amends superabundantly for the disobedience, of Adam.305 Furthermore many Fathers and Doctors of the Church have seen the woman announced in the Protoevangelium as Mary, the mother of Christ, the "new Eve". Mary benefited first of all and uniquely from Christ's victory over sin: she was preserved from all stain of original sin and by a special grace of God committed no sin of any kind during her whole earthly life.306 [/quote] [url="http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/410.htm"]http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/410.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 here is the best article i have read on the subject: --[url="http://www.lumengentleman.com/content.asp?id=47"][b]Who Shall Crush? Gen 3:15 and the Woman[/b][/url] make sure that you read the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 And then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Sep 20 2004, 11:36 PM'] And then? [/quote] what do u mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='phatcatholic' date='Sep 14 2004, 08:18 PM'] here is the best article i have read on the subject: --[url="http://www.lumengentleman.com/content.asp?id=47"][b]Who Shall Crush? Gen 3:15 and the Woman[/b][/url] make sure that you read the whole thing. [/quote] After I read it what do I do, what dooo I doooo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Sep 23 2004, 09:02 PM'] After I read it what do I do, what dooo I doooo? [/quote] go and use your knowledge to defend the marian interpretation of the verse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Isnt this wrong, since the Latin had some type of gender sense, which is hard to tell if its him or her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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