homeschoolmom Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I've been meaning to post this for awhile... I'm trying to make a list of hymns and worships songs to avoid because they contain content contrary to Catholic teaching. Can anyone think of any? Frankly, I haven't given it too much deep thought, but if anyone can think of any, that would be great. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Amazing Grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 If you're gonna tear my heart out, could you be more specific as to why? I'm not arguing, just asking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 because its about the teaching of sola scriptura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted September 11, 2004 Author Share Posted September 11, 2004 I'm rattling through the verses of Amazing Grace and can't find anything about Sola Scriptura in it. The only thing I can find that would be questionable would be the line that says "Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me." indicating salvation... is this the objection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 okay its either that or OSAS..... i apologize for my lack of info right now but i'll be sure to post them when i find them.... i was just talking about this the other day too. lol pax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 We sang it in Mass this morning, and we were led by an orthodox priest! Some (many) of the chorus' are very questionable in their teaching IMO - I was surprised to see so many by very well known protestant writers included in our hymn books, though we don't sing many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted September 13, 2004 Author Share Posted September 13, 2004 We sang Amazing Grace today, too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AloysiusGhost Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 there's nothing objectively wrong with the lyrics to amazing grace though the writer might have intendes something different but yeah, grace saved me. that's a true statement. now, we wont be saved unless we persever to the end, but we were saved from our former sinful lives by grace. i don't think there's anything wrong with Amazing Grace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroX Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 As much as I hate to say it, most of Fanny Crosby's songs have to go. Great to sing, crazy theology! Most "gospel" songs are wacky to. Oh, and everything by Haagen and Haas have to go as well. peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpusDei Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 (I'm not english, so excuse the spelling) Reading the lives of John and Charles Wesley(I think Charles wrote Amazing grace), I sincerely doubt they implied anything related to Sola Scriptura.In fact as I recall, its about the day that Charles realized how sinfull he really was, and how trully great Jesus's sacrifise must have been. I really love the song, it drives me to tears hearing it because it makes me also realize how big the sacrifise on Calvary was, and how much Jesus really loves us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 John Newton, a slavetrader who condemned his former sinful life, wrote it after his conversion. Ironically it was after reading [i]The Imitation of Christ [/i]by Thomas aKempis I love the song and I think it depends on the context you are considering while singing it. I think it's also ironic that [i]Away in a Manger [/i]is sung at almost every midnight Mass on Christmas Eve and it was composed by Martin Luther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominaNostra Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Just a question, why do so many people look for the limits of what is allowed instead of just singing Catholic hymns (really, they should be singing Gregorian Chant anyway, which would eliminate the heretical lyrics and sources). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 [quote name='DominaNostra' date='Sep 24 2004, 01:49 AM'] Just a question, why do so many people look for the limits of what is allowed instead of just singing Catholic hymns (really, they should be singing Gregorian Chant anyway, which would eliminate the heretical lyrics and sources). [/quote] While Gregorian Chant is extremely beautiful, I don't think it's wise to say that it's the only valid type of liturgical music. Liturgical music should reflect Catholic theology. Music that is neutral isn't really good enough (read: [u]Lord of the Dance[/u], which is seen by most liturgists as inappropriate for liturgical music because while it has a pretty tune, it contains nothing inherently theological to it...it's feel good fluff). I'm a fan of classics that reflect the true nature and spirit of Catholicism. This goes from Gregorian Chant, Latin, and Plain Chant to High English, French Carol, and High German, but it can even include [i]some[/i] of the newer music, including Taize and the Gather Hymnal (but not all songs in these). The diocese of Lincoln, which has a reputation of being highly orthodox, seems to like the St. Michael's Hymnal and the local seminary (St. Gregory the Great Seminary) uses the Worship Hymnal. Liturgists don't even consider Tantum Ergo to be Gregorian Chant, and certainly we wouldn't exclude that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom25angels Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I think homeschoolmom is talking about listening to them at home not neccessarily what is appropriate for the mass. We listen to alot of different stuff at home....if I hear something contrary, we just talk about it. I'll be thinking about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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