Theoketos Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 first let me say this fuzzy bunny has taught me much about my faults. I thank you all for your patience with me. I simply wish to share what I have learned. Now Let us consider two responses I have seen in apologetics: The First is an [url="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/adhomine.html"]Ad Hominem[/url] Response. "I cant believe that you..." which translates to "you are stupid because..." I have seen much of this recently and I have seen it on Phatmass, from people who hold the truth, which is sad. I think that it would make Baby Jesus Cry! This response is not charitable. [b]Sarcasm rarely, if ever is, espcially in apologetics.[/b] Instead: When addressing what appears to be a rediculous claim, and this is espcially true in apologetics, first look for something true that you can affirm. Some times this means agreeing with them...Like for example affirming the idea of works righteousness as worng...becuase it is protestant proganda skewing what Catholics actually believe. Then ask them to consider the possiblity of the alternaitve, and state the truth. (which in the previous case would mean stating Catholics really believe about Grace and Faith saving us) And then it helps to encourage charity by thanking the person you are responding for thier charity. Charity in all things! Remember it is about winning the person not the argument, no one likes to corrected by some one full of pride, but if Jesus said something to you, it could change your like. Let Jesus speak for you! PS if this should be in the other forum let me know. PPS I think this counts as my first track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted September 8, 2004 Author Share Posted September 8, 2004 Please Lord Grant me humility Here is an example of this in action! [url="http://youthspecialties.com/forums/message_boards/index.php?act=ST&f=32&t=7745&st=90#entry152712"]http://youthspecialties.com/forums/message...=90#entry152712[/url] Please tell me what you think so that I can get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daugher-of-Mary Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Right on, theoketos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiat_Voluntas_Tua Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 James Lewis..Blessed be God! You are a man of wisdom, charity, love, knowledge, and coolness. I want a lock of your hair... -UIOGD- Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingHimloud Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 if he still had his long hair it would be an even cooler lock, but alas. james is still pretty niffty though, or at least he's working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 theoketos............that site you linked to is awesome! [url="http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/"][b]here[/b][/url] is another one like it i highly suggest that all of you familiarize yourself with all of the logical fallacies. this will make you [i][b]extremely [/b][/i]effective in debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted September 9, 2004 Author Share Posted September 9, 2004 Thanks PhatCatholic! Remember Charity Truth Charity! Whens the heart everytime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Sep 8 2004, 07:34 PM'] Whens the heart everytime! [/quote] wins it also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted September 9, 2004 Author Share Posted September 9, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Sep 8 2004, 07:34 PM'] Thanks PhatCatholic! Remember Charity Truth Charity! Whens the heart everytime! [/quote] Yeah and so does living beyond reproach, which I do not do in my spelling. Thank you for calling me on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 its all good bro, i'm the anal-retentive a-hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 [quote name='phatcatholic' date='Sep 8 2004, 10:50 PM'] its all good bro, i'm the anal-retentive a-hole [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 i never know how to interpret that particular smiley....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 umm it's a kinda shocked and confused look lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 [quote]"I cant believe that you..." which translates to "you are stupid because..."[/quote] Translates as: "How the heck you come up with that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Sep 8 2004, 09:49 AM'] Charity in all things! [/quote] amen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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