Individual Communion Cups!?

[yiannii]

[quote name='Ellenita' date='Sep 7 2004, 09:49 AM']Oooo, I remember individual cups from the Baptist church I used to attend a few years ago and the sheer panic I had at holding the tray with them all on so that people could each take one and then return it to the tray......I was shaking so much, terrified at the thought of dropping the tray that the cups were rattling against each other - I'm sure it must have destroyed any moment of reverence people might have been having......[/quote]

:thatsfunny: :rotfl: :thatsfunny:


Sorry but the mental picture I got while reading about your past experience was funny....

[Thomas Michael]

I just thought it was funny that a Baptist church was doing a communion service. I never saw one at any of the services I ever went to.

[dUSt]

[quote name='Sinner' date='Sep 6 2004, 10:33 PM'] Dust Dust Dustarooooooo

C'mon........ Meema don't hear like she used to. Right? Thas gotta be the deal. Tell me it ain't so Joe. Anyhoooooo if it is true, I won't have as much to bellyache about over where I'm at. Heheeeeeeeee!!!!!!! [/quote]
You may have already assumed this, but this is referencing the church that we met at...

[p0lar_bear]

I don't think any documents address this question specifically....

I guess technically, it could be doable....nothing regulates the size of the chalices to be used at Mass, so I suppose one could have a large number of little "chalices," so long as they were of proper material.

It seems it would be very difficult logistically...How many altars have room for 200+ little chalices for the consecration? And it seems there would be a significantly higher chance of a spill.

I just don't see [i]why[/i] this would be done. I suppose if there was a highly communicable, dangerous disease....but like other said, you don't have to receive under both species...

[i]If[/i] there were a situation that made this practical, I think the pastor and/or bishop should ask the CDWDS for approval, just to be safe.

[mmmerf]

I remember being at a protestant service where they were handing out the grape juice in the little glasses and broken soda crackers. They said it was a symbol of the last supper. And I thought, 'Yep. It's a symbol.'

I didn't partake. It just made me sad. And homesick. But the fact that I felt sad and homesick made me a little happy.

Anyways. If they tried putting the body, blood, soul and divinity of My Lord into anything other than a chalice, I'd freak. In a conversation with a priest about concerns about the proper purification of the vessels (I know, I know) he said that this sort of thing shouldn't get me upset. I replied 'then what [b]should[/b] get me upset, if not this?' He acknowledged the point...

[Dave]

[quote name='Howie' date='Sep 6 2004, 11:39 PM'] That is what they do where I attend Mass. The priest prefers this method due to the problems with sickness and disease. I actually prefer taking the Body and Blood of Christ in this manner. [/quote]
Well they shouldn't do that. No priest may do what is forbidden by the rubrics.

[HomeTeamFamily]

polar bear that is a good point.....cuz doesnt the wine have to be distributed into the chalices before consecration? that would take like 45 minutes to do to make sure just a little bit was poured into each "glass"

also, arent we just supposed to take like a tiny tiny sip, like not even take enough that would warrant swallowing?

arghh that idea just seems so wrong on so many different levels!!!!

[Crusader_4]

I know that at my school they use to have the chalice available at the mandaotry all school masses but as of late they have not had it available. All though i think the reasons was probabbly kids were going up thinking it was a free drink of wine rather then showing reverence to the Blood Of Christ. However, at the everyday masses at school where normally the more faithful go they still have the chalice.

[Theoketos]

285. For Communion under both kinds the following should be prepared:

If Communion from the chalice is carried out by communicants' drinking directly from the chalice, a chalice of a sufficiently large size or several chalices are prepared. Care should, however, be taken in planning lest beyond what is needed of the Blood of Christ remains to be consumed at the end of the celebration.


I can not even imagine the agenda behind such a situation...

Certainly they are not following the norms.

[Theoketos]

102.] The chalice should not be ministered to lay members of Christ’s faithful where there is such a large number of communicants[189]that it is difficult to gauge the amount of wine for the Eucharist and there is a danger that “more than a reasonable quantity of the Blood of Christ remain to be consumed at the end of the celebration”.[190] The same is true wherever access to the chalice would be difficult to arrange, or where such a large amount of wine would be required that its certain provenance and quality could only be known with difficulty, or wherever there is not an adequate number of sacred ministers or extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion with proper formation, or where a notable part of the people continues to prefer not to approach the chalice for various reasons, so that the sign of unity would in some sense be negated.

It would seem that if the reason is that the distrobution takes too long, then it can and should be skipped.

[Theoketos]

[103.] The norms of the Roman Missal admit the principle that in cases where Communion is administered under both kinds, “the Blood of the Lord may be received either by drinking from the chalice directly, or by intinction, or by means of a tube or a spoon”.[191] As regards the administering of Communion to lay members of Christ’s faithful, the Bishops may exclude Communion with the tube or the spoon where this is not the local custom, though the option of administering Communion by intinction always remains. If this modality is employed, however, hosts should be used which are neither too thin nor too small, and the communicant should receive the Sacrament from the Priest only on the tongue.[192]

[b][104.] The communicant must not be permitted to intinct the host himself in the chalice, nor to receive the intincted host in the hand. As for the host to be used for the intinction, it should be made of valid matter, also consecrated; it is altogether forbidden to use non-consecrated bread or other matter.[/b]

[105.] If one chalice is not sufficient for Communion to be distributed under both kinds to the Priest concelebrants or Christ’s faithful, there is no reason why the Priest celebrant should not use several chalices.[193] For it is to be remembered that all Priests in celebrating Holy Mass are bound to receive Communion under both kinds. It is praiseworthy, by reason of the sign value, to use a main chalice of larger dimensions, together with smaller chalices.

[106.] However, the pouring of the Blood of Christ after the consecration from one vessel to another is completely to be avoided, lest anything should happen that would be to the detriment of so great a mystery. Never to be used for containing the Blood of the Lord are flagons, bowls, or other vessels that are not fully in accord with the established norms.

[107.] In accordance with what is laid down by the canons, “one who throws away the consecrated species or takes them away or keeps them for a sacrilegious purpose, incurs a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See; a cleric, moreover, may be punished by another penalty, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state”.[194] To be regarded as pertaining to this case is any action that is voluntarily and gravely disrespectful of the sacred species. Anyone, therefore, who acts contrary to these norms, for example casting the sacred species into the sacrarium or in an unworthy place or on the ground, incurs the penalties laid down.[195] Furthermore all will remember that once the distribution of Holy Communion during the celebration of Mass has been completed, the prescriptions of the Roman Missal are to be observed, and in particular, whatever may remain of the Blood of Christ must be entirely and immediately consumed by the Priest or by another minister, according to the norms, while the consecrated hosts that are left are to be consumed by the Priest at the altar or carried to the place for the reservation of the Eucharist.[196]

From these I can see what they are getting at, but I fear for Jesus being thrown out or dropped upon.

This is why I do not like living in the Dallas Diocese

[Howie]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Sep 7 2004, 12:37 AM']I attended a non-catholic church service once that had the grape juice in little teeny plastic cups and the little crackers. Not to sound like a snobby Catholic, but I was stunned, thinking, "how is this a holy remembrance of Christ's last supper?"[/quote]
very true... I remember when I was a protestant a preacher said that you could take a snickers bar if you wanted when taking communion. Sad indeed.. Guess that is why I am a Catholic.

[geetarplayer]

Individual cups? Goodness gracious, the parish is turning Methodist!

-Mark

[MichaelFilo]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I love Jesus.

I don't love the sacralige going on in His Church.

God bless,

Mikey

[qfnol31]

[quote name='Dave' date='Sep 7 2004, 11:36 AM'] Well they shouldn't do that. No priest may do what is forbidden by the rubrics. [/quote]
I thought that Intinction is allowed, if the Priest himself does it.