Ziggamafu Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Hey guys. What is the... * most EXHAUSTIVE * most AUTHORITIVE * most ACCURATE [b]verse-by-verse commentary[/b], background/culture commentary, cross-reference index, topical index, etc. For the WHOLE Bible? The most important to me right now is basically the best Catholic Bible commentary out there. But I guess you could just start giving me the "Best Of's" for any genre you can think of within the realms of theology and apologetics. See, I'm a bookworm and know all of these answers from a Protestant perspective. But now that I'm awaiting Confirmation I want everything to be solidly Catholic. Oh, and while I'm at it, where can I get all the writings of the Doctors of the Church? Or is that even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 well I'm working on buying a St. Jerome Bible Commentary it's a huge book but it is completely awesome !! There are several books on writings of the Church Fathers and the Doctors of the Church. I can't name any off the top of my head but I'll look around and get back to ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br. Augustino Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Well as far as writings of the Doctors any reputable Catholic seminary should have a few sets... I am in the library at my sem and all the Doctors are right behind me.... as far as biblical comentay.... I would step carefully. Our sister, St. Collette is diggin on the St. Jerome biblical commentary, maybe it is different than the one I have.. In fact I HOPE it is different than the one I have. Maybe, St.C you have the older version. I am sure I have the new jerome biblical commentary. and it is not the best, but the most exhaustive thing out there...your other alternatives are not in one single volume. I am pretty sure of that, but I am open for correction if someone knows something better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 yes sir Br. Augustino the St. Jerome Commentary that I found is an older edition. Zigga another awesome Commentary are the Navarre Commentaries. Sometimes you can find the New Testament collection in one single volume. If not they are always in their single volume form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 The Naverro Comentaries are what you all looking for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggamafu Posted September 4, 2004 Author Share Posted September 4, 2004 I want exhaustive, meaning it can't be a condensed or one-volume edition. I don't mind large investments when it comes to this kind of stuff, even if it takes awhile to save up... The Naverro ones...do they have the complete Old Testament as well? And are they exhaustive as the Jerome one? And what's so bad about the new Jerome commentary vs the old one? Is there nothing officially approved as the staple for verse-by-verse commentary? I just don't want to put too much faith in something that has bad exegesis / hermeneutics... what about other things, like a good concordance, topical bible, chain-reference (ala Treasury of Scripture Knowledge), etc? Like I said before, I own all the answers a Protestant should give...I'm looking for SOLID Catholic teaching. Thanks for all your help. You guys are always a real blessing! = ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Commentaries While an older orthodox commentary from the 1950s, called A Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture (Nelson Publishers) can sometimes be found, we are now starting to see new faithful commentaries being published. The best one is the Navarre Bible (Scepter Press). It is a work in progress from the University of Navarre in Spain. It has both the RSV and the Latin Vulgate, with commentary underneath from the Fathers, Doctors, the Magisterium and the writings of St. Josemaria Escriva, the founder of Opus Dei. So far the volumes of the New Testament (one per Gospel and collections of the epistles) are available, as well as some Old Testament volumes (Pentateuch, Joshua-Kings). Additionally, Ignatius Press has begun to publish the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible, individual NT volumes by orthodox scholars, including Scott Hahn. Sop, far the Gospels and Acts have been published. Both the Navarre Bible and the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible can be obtained from EWTN's Religious Catalogue, the publishers, and through most Catholic catalogs, distributors and bookstores. The most widely used Catholic commentary is probably the Jerome Biblical Commentary, now in a 2nd edition. There is also a summary version of it. This commentary is the work of well-known Catholic Biblical scholars and is filled with articles on historical, archaeological, linguistic and other subjects useful for understanding the background of the Scriptures. The JBC is, therefore, a valuable resource for those seeking such information. However, the textual commentaries use primarily the historical-critical method, and thus must be read with discernment. The Church approves of the use of this method for the purpose of understanding the historical and literary foundations of the text (see Vatican II, Dei Verbum 11-13), but finds it an incomplete method apart from the Tradition. Scripture must be interpreted according to the analogy of faith, that is, in accordance with what God has revealed in toto, as taught by the Magisterium. from : [url="http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/bible_versions.htm"]http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/bible_versions.htm[/url] That may help you decide. This site [url="http://www.cmri.org/book-index.html"]http://www.cmri.org/book-index.html[/url] is pretty good about reference books and Apologetics books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 The New Jerome Biblical Commentary, 2nd Ed. 2000. Over 1800 pages, verse by verse, with extras on Ancient Israel, Judicial Systems, Archaeology, Geography, Pauline/Johannine Theology, Apocalypticism Explainations, Church Documents, Beginnings of the Church, Canon of Scripture, The Synoptic Gospels [Explainations and Charts], And more. $180 AU = $150 US[?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 wow Morph I found the Jerome Biblical Commentary for like $70.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggamafu Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Wow, period. Both of those sound good to me! Anything like that around for the Catechism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 [url="http://www.catholicshopper.com/products/catechetical.html"]http://www.catholicshopper.com/products/catechetical.html[/url] four pages of Catechism books, some explain the entire Catechism, some are the Catechism, umm Catholic dictionaries, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Ziggamafu' date='Sep 3 2004, 05:28 PM'] Hey guys. What is the... * most EXHAUSTIVE * most AUTHORITIVE * most ACCURATE [b]verse-by-verse commentary[/b], background/culture commentary, cross-reference index, topical index, etc. For the WHOLE Bible? The most important to me right now is basically the best Catholic Bible commentary out there. But I guess you could just start giving me the "Best Of's" for any genre you can think of within the realms of theology and apologetics. See, I'm a bookworm and know all of these answers from a Protestant perspective. But now that I'm awaiting Confirmation I want everything to be solidly Catholic. Oh, and while I'm at it, where can I get all the writings of the Doctors of the Church? Or is that even possible? [/quote] The Best of.... [b]Verse-by-Verse Commentary[/b] --[url="http://ss02.lynk-systems.com/communitycreations/html/page57.html"]Navarre Commentaries[/url] --[url="http://www.catholictreasures.com/cartdescrip/11050.html"]Douay-Rheims Haydock Bible[/url] --[url="http://www.fromthehousetops.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=101"]Catena Aurea[/url] (verse-by-verse commentary of the ECF's on the four gospels--compiled by St. Thomas Aquinas) [b]Concordances[/b] Protestant: --[url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0310233437/qid=1094439124/sr=ka-3/ref=pd_ka_3/002-1973468-9719220"]The Strongest Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible[/url] Catholic: --[url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195284100/qid=1078203317/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-8047997-7275920?v=glance&s=books"]The Concise Concordance of the NRSV[/url] --[url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195282760/ref=pd_sim_books_1/104-8047997-7275920?v=glance&s=books"]The NAB Concise Concordance[/url] --[url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895552868/qid=1078203317/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/104-8047997-7275920?v=glance&s=books"]A Textual Concordance of the Holy Scriptures (DRV)[/url] [b]Culture and Customs of the Bible (Protestant)[/b] --IVP Bible Background Commentary: [url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0830814191/qid=1094440926/sr=ka-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-1973468-9719220"]Old Testament[/url] and [url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0830814051/qid=1094440926/sr=ka-2/ref=pd_ka_2/002-1973468-9719220"]New Testament[/url] --[url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0785211942/qid=1094441133/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-1973468-9719220?v=glance&s=books"]Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Manners and Customs[/url] --[url="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0840719744/qid=1094441133/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/002-1973468-9719220?v=glance&s=books"]Nelson's Illustrated Encyclopedia of Bible Facts: A Comprehensive Fact-Finding Sourcebook of All the People, Places, and Customs of the Bible[/url] the only ones i have personally used and can attest to are the verse-by-verse commentaries. however, the reviewers at amazon highly suggested the other works. i hope this helps.....pax christi, phatcatholic Edited September 6, 2004 by phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Sep 6 2004, 10:40 AM'] wow Morph I found the Jerome Biblical Commentary for like $70.00 [/quote] It was $185 But the sisters gave it to me for $135, coz im such a good customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 aww Sisters are awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Yep Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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