Evolution

[Iacobus]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='Aug 29 2004, 10:48 PM'] however, i wonder if it is compatible to say the human branch came off and was favored by God, because Catholic teaching says we must believe that all human beings came from one common human ancestor- adam. so it'd be really odd to say He evolved only one human from apes and that is the one human from which we all came. [/quote]
Yeh that is the part I am currently trying to figure out, lol. I have guesses but they are reaching, like trying to defend "the rapture." So I will hold on to them until I can understand them myself.

Best guesses? There had to be an index human in the new branch. Could that have been Adam? Or could humans as in Homo Sapiens been around without a soul and Adam was the 1st to get a soul? And so forth.

[Aloysius]

well, every single human being alive today must have Adam as his ancestor. there can be no human beings without adam as their ancestor.

[quote]"When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now it is no no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Magisterium of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which, through generation, is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own." [Pope Pius XII, Encyclical Letter Humani Generis, no. 37]
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Pope Pius XII, Humani Generis

[reelguy227]

this is reelguys cousin again: Ok so god put us on earth and we change "NATURALY" Thats why its called natural selection. For example the, gall bladder, it is thought to be
used to be an extra fiddler/grinder for food, what dose it do now? Nothing! do you think god just put them there for nothing, no. because we dont eat raw meat like we did back then. someday we might be born without them. thats natural selection. no evolution from apes hapening here... just getting rid of or gaining somthing that we need or dont need. just imagin that hapining over a hunderd thousand years. mabey we wont need two eyes!!! Just kidding

[Oik]

[quote](4) Human Evolution vs. Plant and Animal Evolution

To what extent is the theory of evolution applicable to man? That God should have made use of natural, evolutionary, original causes in the production of man's body, is per se not improbable, and was propounded by St. Augustine (see AUGUSTINE OF HIPPO, SAINT, under V. Augustinism in History). The actual proofs of the descent of man's body from animals is, however, inadequate, especially in respect to paleontology. And the human soul could not have been derived through natural evolution from that of the brute, since it is of a spiritual nature; for which reason we must refer its origin to a creative act on the part of God. [/quote]

This is what initially made me start to question evolution. I didn't believe that humans evolved, but I still thought is was possible for animals to evolve.
[quote]however, i wonder if it is compatible to say the human branch came off and was favored by God, because Catholic teaching says we must believe that all human beings came from one common human ancestor- adam. so it'd be really odd to say He evolved only one human from apes and that is the one human from which we all came. [/quote] This is another point of my questioning of evolution. I wondered to myself. The Church teaches that Adam was the first man. Adam had a soul. If evolution is correct, which humanoid did Adam belong to. And what about the other humanoids, were they human? Did they have a soul?

I say that the classification of humanoid creatures are incorrect. I think Adam and Eve had a special genetic code that had a certain capacity. So when Adam and Eve mated, the genes passed to thier children also had that same capacity, although the genetic structure was the same. I think that that same capacity has existed the length of humanity.

Also, for Adam and Eve, everything (in the garden) was perfect. When sin was introduced, everything was lessened and now the entire universe and all of creation is longing for the Sons of God to be revealed, or in reality, all creation is trying to work its way back to how it was originally, and this time will only come when the New Heaven and New Earth becomes. So, all the things we "observe" as "change" or mutations are actually the effort of creation to become how is already is. This debunks evolutionary theory. Simply put, things do not "change," they only become how they already are. I also believe God is involved in every single detail and decision of all of creation. If he wasn't, nothing would happen, ever. :ph34r: