White Knight Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Evolution says our DNA gets more complex, thats not true, it stays the same, otherwise genetics would be screwed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 (edited) [quote name='White Knight' date='Aug 29 2004, 09:44 PM'] Evolution says our DNA gets more complex, thats not true, it stays the same, otherwise genetics would be screwed up. [/quote] Evolution is the change in DNA over time which this can be taken as meaning like my DNA is different in its entirety than my father's because my DNA genes are a combination of both my father's and mom's genes if DNA genes weren't different in the way they were arranged and put together everyone would look the same. Identical twins have the same DNA because their DNA are exact copies of one another but their finger prints are different mind you Edited August 30, 2004 by StColette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeamFamily Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 [quote]But.....the Church says we are not suppost to believe in evolution from apes ,I know that for sure. Evolution of animals to others im not sure of.[/quote] can you please provide a source for this statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 (edited) btw just so that everyone knows lol I don't think we came from apes lol Just so that is made clear. I believe in God with my entire heart and always will. I'm just making sure everyone knows the true definition of the Evolution theory because I know it can often be misconstrude. In fact last night I used the evolution theory to uphold the existance of God and to uphold that we and all living things were created by God. Edited August 30, 2004 by StColette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeamFamily Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 dont lie....you just didnt want a phishy label hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 for "evolution from apes" to be compatible with Catholic Teaching, you'd have to make a very complicated calculated statement. it'd have to be something like, God created everything out of nothing, then created all animals including one ape which he created out of dirt, then evolved that into a man and then created that woman from that man. but StColletes and Iacobus's form of evolution can be accepted, and I think that is true. but apes didn't change into humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Aug 29 2004, 10:04 PM'] but apes didn't change into humans. [/quote] Exactly !! Evolution theory doesn't say humans came from apes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanvean Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 There is no one theory of evolution, and, as Jennie says, evolution makes no comment on the original creation of life. Yes. Many evolutionists subscribe to the very false belief in abiogenesis(that is, the ridiculous notion that life popped up all by itself without God's intervention). This, however, is a seperate idea that is not a part of evolution. Darwinism came about quite some time ago, and, while Charles Darwin is debatably the father of the theory of evolution, Darwinism is in no way indicative of where modern evolution theory stands. Furthermore, while evolution is indeed non-theistic in nature, this does not imply a belief that there is no God. Rather, it implies a lack of belief in God. Certainly, many atheists are evolutionists, but this does not mean that all evolutionists themselves all deny the existance of God. That would be an example of the Fallacy of Composition. Evolution does not necessarily state that our DNA gets more complex, simply that it changes over generations in a population. My goodness. This is why I have always been leery of discussions on evolution theory... it tends to turn into one long argument of "Yes it does!" and "No it doesn't!". What is there, really, to say? God created the universe out of nothing. How He did it is really none of our business. If it's going to be a source of division between Christians... that's a sad, sad thing. God bless. -Veronica P.S. Is this thread really appropriate for Open Mic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanvean Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Aug 29 2004, 11:08 PM'] Exactly !! Evolution theory doesn't say humans came from apes [/quote] Precisely! There is a theory that humans and apes share a common ancestor, but noone is claiming that apes are, in fact, our ancestors. -Veronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 [quote name='Sanvean' date='Aug 29 2004, 10:17 PM'] Precisely! There is a theory that humans and apes share a common ancestor, but noone is claiming that apes are, in fact, our ancestors. -Veronica [/quote] Apes can be a common ancestor but the human branch was broken off by God and favored and given a soul and free will whereas nothing else was. This favor of God thing seems to work, and I think one of the popes said something about it in one of the links provided. So could it (man and ape are physical *not mentaly or spirtualy* related?) have been? Sure. Does that mean it was? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanvean Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Aug 29 2004, 11:28 PM'] Apes can be a common ancestor but the human branch was broken off by God and favored and given a soul and free will whereas nothing else was. This favor of God thing seems to work, and I think one of the popes said something about it in one of the links provided. So could it (man and ape are physical *not mentaly or spirtualy* related?) have been? Sure. Does that mean it was? No. [/quote] Well, apes "could" be our ancestor, certainly, but the sort of science that gets taken seriously in the journals does not claim that. -Veronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Sanvean' date='Aug 29 2004, 10:32 PM'] Well, apes "could" be our ancestor, certainly, but the sort of science that gets taken seriously in the journals does not claim that. -Veronica [/quote] Yeh. But getting set in one thing, when you are right, is good. But when you are wrong it is bad. And if you are probly right but don't know 100% than it is nice to have room for an out. LOL! I will explain myself come the AM if this isn't making sense. LOL! I have AP Chem that is summoning and it is already 10:40 and I am sappy, long story. Edited August 30, 2004 by Iacobus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanvean Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 ROFL. Ah yes... it's always nice to leave room for an out. God bless, Veronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 You do know our DNA stays the same right? it doesn't change..... at all, it stays the way God made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 however, i wonder if it is compatible to say the human branch came off and was favored by God, because Catholic teaching says we must believe that all human beings came from one common human ancestor- adam. so it'd be really odd to say He evolved only one human from apes and that is the one human from which we all came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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