Azriel Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 What is your definition of family values? I have a strong suspicion that we as a Catholic Community would define "family values" quite differently than the media, or the policticos would. (this stems from a discussion I'm having with a friend regarding feminism, the American family, and the common myths regarding familial structures of the past) [in my best Linda Richman Voice] Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I don't know, I'd have to think about it for a while. My first impression is some kind of value structure which safegaurds the integrity of the family (and even promotes it's flourishing). What would have to be identified is the exact nature of "family". I will ponder the essence of family for a while and get back to you. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 Thanks LD. You nailed an important part of my discussion - that is the nature (not necessarily definition) of family. Looking forward to your further reflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 thanks Azriel. I hope other peeps start posting soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 C'mon .... bumpj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Yeah...I wonder if the Addamses are Catholic... hehe...Addams Family Values... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Germ Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Family Values... Like the things that you learn from your family? Or that is the rules you learn from your family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 [quote name='Cat Germ' date='Aug 24 2004, 03:38 PM'] Family Values... Like the things that you learn from your family? Or that is the rules you learn from your family? [/quote] Hmmm ... more like "this country needs to return to family values" What are the values that families espouse? What does going back to family values mean? Ya know ... stuff like that. And welcome to PM, if I haven't said it before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Germ Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Thanks! Maybe Respect for life... :mouse: Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 I agree on that one - as a Catholic Family Value - but do you think that is one of the values that is encompassed in the media spin on "family values" or the political platforms reasoning of what "family values" are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullnaChinaShop Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I think that the primary family value is that family is important both in regards to who we are as individuals and to society as a whole. Because of its importance we should look out for our families in a special way. Unfortunately our society puts an inordinate focus on the individual even at the expense of the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 [quote name='BullnaChinaShop' date='Aug 24 2004, 04:26 PM'] I think that the primary family value is that family is important both in regards to who we are as individuals and to society as a whole. Because of its importance we should look out for our families in a special way. Unfortunately our society puts an inordinate focus on the individual even at the expense of the family. [/quote] Cool. Ok - then what is the nature of family? what makes a family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 Bump bump. I'm stubborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullnaChinaShop Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 [quote name='Azriel' date='Aug 24 2004, 04:59 PM']Cool. Ok - then what is the nature of family? what makes a family?[/quote] I think that family are those who form an individuals core support group whether they be related by blood or not. These are the people who have played a large part in shaping who a person is as an individual. Everyone's family is different and yet people can be part of several other peoples' familes. This overlap from family to family provides the connections that hold society together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 [quote name='BullnaChinaShop' date='Aug 25 2004, 07:33 AM'] I think that family are those who form an individuals core support group whether they be related by blood or not. These are the people who have played a large part in shaping who a person is as an individual. Everyone's family is different and yet people can be part of several other peoples' familes. This overlap from family to family provides the connections that hold society together. [/quote] Thanks bull! I agree with you wholeheartedly. Family, I believe, especially in terms of the faithful Catholic, it truly represented by the overlaps in relationships. So that what most would call a "community" is really in Catholic terms a "family". which is why we are not a Phatmass community, but a phatmass family or phamily. Now, my argument is that the media and politico's turn "family" into the scheme of two parents and a their children. An autonomous unit. And so when folks are saying that we need to return to family values, they are really saying we need to return to the Cleavers. My argument is that this familial structure that is represented in Cleavers is purely nostaligia, and not even close to what families were and are. So we begin to yearn for something that never existed. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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