White Knight Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Ok, Judas killed himself before Jesus Died on the Cross the very same day, now my question is, Could he have been forgiven and maybe had Salvation or did he go straight to Hell, after he died? This Question makes me wonder. Anyway, Scripture would be a nice supporter, of your opinion or what facts one may reprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 I happen to think that he went to Hell, as it at least seems that Christ prophesied his eternal torment, however, as we do not know for certain, and we have no way of knowing whether or not he repented the sin of suicide at the moment of dead, we can always hope for his salvation. - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 the only people we know the eternal fate of are the cannonized saints we don't know any specific person is damned to hell i tend to aggree with Jeff, it seems apparent that he went to hell. but we don't know, he could have been saved or somethin, but it's highly unlikely again, though, nothing is impossible with God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Id say he went to hell for the following reasons: - He took a bribe for a man's life - He betrayed Jesus - He committed suicide Theres no way he could have gone to heaven. However you do feel for the man, and what he must have went through prior to hanging himself, but this still doesnt justify suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 yeah, Deicide plus suicide without asking for forgiveness of it... unless he had one of those secret 11th hour conversions just as he was falling with the rope around his neck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 (edited) We can't know and God isn't telling. Edited August 22, 2004 by cmotherofpirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrdero Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 It is a good question. Something that I have wondered at one time or another. Excerpt from HELLO IT'S ME: An Interview With GOD Jesus The Christ pg 81 INTERVIEWER: Do you forgive Judas? GOD: Is there any reason why I shouldn't? Try to UNDERSTAND that GOD does not hold any bitter grudges or vengeful desires against any soul. Given the circumstances of the man they called Judas and the time he lived and the situation he was involved in, his actions may have seemed justifiable to him at that moment. I make no excuses for Judas nor do I harbor any hate for him or anyone. If YOU could only see the Universe through MY eyes and the UNDERSTANDING of MY soul, YOU will realize I could not pass judgment on any creations of the Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theculturewarrior Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Unlike the Jesus Christ Superstar version, he's never come back to tell us, so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Yeah, I agree with the mainstream anwers. We Cannot judge whether a person is in Hell or not. Even if a person commits suicide now we cannot know what was going through his head before his last breath. We also don't know what happened in his life that God saw but not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 lol...the joy of situational ethics and good intentions. Some roads are paved with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Friday Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 I think it would be amusing if you got to Heaven and this was what happened: "You're Peter, right?" "No, Judas, but I get that a lot." (Not to say that Peter isn't in Heaven . . . the point was that it would be amusing to get there and realize that God's grace is so powerful that even Judas was saved). As an optimist, I hope that Judas was saved and believe there's reason to hope that he was saved, even at the last minute. Jesus' suffering was for Judas as it was for everyone else, and no doubt Our Lady was also praying for Judas. It's entirely possible that just as her intercession has brought even the worst of sinners to conversion, often times last minute, her intercession may also have brought Judas to conversion. I hope when and if I get to Heaven, he's there and God pleasantly surprises me by telling me that Hell is empty except for Satan and his demons. There's reason to hope for this, because there's eternal hope in God; of course, the hope that God may have kept Hell empty by His grace shouldn't hinder us from faithfully following Him -- it's a hope, not a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Who knows? I hope he at least made it to Purgatory........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 awww, its nice when catholics are in agreement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalscout Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 He would have made a great saint if he had not given up Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 [quote name='MorphRC' date='Aug 22 2004, 01:46 AM'] Theres no way he could have gone to heaven. [/quote] Everything is possible with God, even the forgiveness of Judas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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