Church Says Girl's Communion Not Valid

[Mateo el Feo]

[quote name='let_go_let_God' date='Aug 19 2004, 10:31 PM'] This is huge in the area that I live in, what makes it even worse is that our church doesn't offer Communion in both forms, due to A) a lack of Eucharistic ministers and B) our parish is "too small." That's why I enjoy going to other parishes because I can recive the Blood of Christ while I"m there. [/quote]
My parish also doesn't offer Communion in both forms. In the parish, there is one family in which one of the daughters (I assume she has the allergy to wheat) comes up and receives the Eucharist in the form of wine from the priest.

[theculturewarrior]

Theoretical question...Suppose you had an alcoholic celiac? Or suppose rather that you had someone who was allergic to both wine, new wine, wheat gluten, etc.

Couldn't they just make an act of spiritual communion?

[let_go_let_God]

[quote name='Mateo el Feo' date='Aug 19 2004, 10:40 PM'] My parish also doesn't offer Communion in both forms. In the parish, there is one family in which one of the daughters (I assume she has the allergy to wheat) comes up and receives the Eucharist in the form of wine from the priest. [/quote]
At least she can recieve that. Our organist cant have wheat, it doesn't effect her that badly yet, but she still recieves The Body of Christ. She figures God wouldn't kill her for reciving Jesus Christ.

[FutureSoror]

They certainly could... but it wouldn't be the same.

[theculturewarrior]

Don't get me wrong...I have faith in the Eucharist, I believe in the Real Presence, but if you can have forgiveness without sacramental confession, though of course that's not the ideal situation, can't you have communion without the Eucharist? It would come to follow.

I'm not saying we should all become prots. I just think we should "think outside the box." I know God does.

PS I'm asking because I'm curious, not because I think I know.

[Norseman82]

I posted this in the other thread, and there has been no definitive answer yet.

Do the Eastern Rites use hosts without gluten?

[Guest JeffCR07]

to the best of my knowledge, the Eastern Rites use leavened bread, some comingle the species (like the Ruthenian Church), others do not (like the Melkite Church). I am not sure whether it is universal among all of these Churches, however, with regards to the question of leavened vs. unleavened and gluten vs. no gluten

[Guest JeffCR07]

PS, It seems to me that the child should simply take the Blessed Sacrament in the species of the wine. If her parish does not normatively offer the Precious Blood, there is no reason why an exception could not be made specifically in her case, as it is very important that the laity be strengthened in the Eucharist. In the case of the hypothetical situation that TCW brought up, I think it would be prudent to trust that an act of spiritual communion would suffice to bring about the sacrament in the heart of the person in question, even if it is not visible to the eyes of the congregation.

While I agree with TCW that God is not bound by the Sacraments I would argue that anything and everything that can be done should be done in order for the laity to receive the Sacraments.

- Your Brother In Christ, Jeff

[ViolaPower3000]

That is crazy

If it's bread, but not wheat bread it should still count

[MorphRC]

This will test pplz faith.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='ViolaPower3000' date='Aug 20 2004, 01:35 AM'] That is crazy

If it's bread, but not wheat bread it should still count [/quote]
But it doesn't.
1412 The essential signs of the Eucharistic sacrament are wheat bread and grape wine, on which the blessing of the Holy Spirit is invoked and the priest pronounces the words of consecration spoken by Jesus during the Last Supper: "This is my body which will be given up for you. . . . This is the cup of my blood. . . ."

[jasJis]

[quote name='ViolaPower3000' date='Aug 19 2004, 11:35 PM'] That is crazy

If it's bread, but not wheat bread it should still count [/quote]
The problem is the meaning associated with what Christ did, and to keep the continuity. People had come up with all sorts of odd things over the years, raising questions. That is why the Church gives definitive answers. In this case, the Host must contain some sort of wheat. That way, people can make adaptations relative to their history & culture, but still share the essential common denominator. Adaptations are allowed to lower the gluten. Adaptations are allowed to receive under another Species (wine).

Christianity is about having a personal relationship with Jesus within the context of us all being part of One Body. It's [b]both[/b] together. That's the problem with people being anti established-religion. They over react seeking their personal relationship and forget we [b]all[/b] are to be One Body in Christ.

[cappie]

This keeps rumbling in Australia [b] Coeliac priest will ignore 'silly' rule[/b]

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