thicke Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 (edited) [url="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040819/ap_on_re_us/communion_denied"]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ommunion_denied[/url] UM....And she couldn't receive just the Precious Blood becasue.....? Anyone? Anyone? Edited August 20, 2004 by thicke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappie Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Can't talk about the local situation but here in Australia the following has appeared Assurance on communion wafers from Liturgical Commission head Fr Peter Williams of the National Liturgical Commission has given an assurance that the Church is determined to avoid causing alarm to communicant Catholics whose health is threatened by communion wafers containing gluten. He told The Age that especially sensitive coeliac sufferers are able to receive communion by leaving the wafer and taking wine from the chalice instead. "But very sensitive sufferers are not going to be disbarred from sacred communion because they can receive communion in just one kind," he said. Catholics with wheat allergies may suffer a reaction to the eucharist following a Vatican directive that the wafer must contain wheat. The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith recently determined that only wheat-based flour is valid matter for celebrating the eucharist. A new formula using wheaten cornflour went into production in Sydney this week, Fr Williams confirmed yesterday. Gluten-free communion wafer production has stopped in favour of low-gluten wafers. The Coeliac Society of Australia has warned that, even at the new level of 200 parts per million of gluten, many sensitive coeliac sufferers, who are allergic to gluten, will be affected. Gluten damages the lining of the bowel in those allergic to it, stopping food absorption. It can cause cancer, but Mr Price suggested the most likely effect of the low-gluten wafers would be diarrhoea. "The church would not deliberately attempt to poison its communicant members," said Fr Williams. "The last thing we want is to alarm Catholic coeliac sufferers." He suggested people with coeliac disease could try the new formula, saying: "Hosts are no bigger than a 20 cent piece and very thin - we're not talking slices of bread here. Ozanam Industries, Australia's largest producer of communion hosts, has been producing gluten-free wafers from maize cornflour, which does not affect coeliacs. Company spokeswoman Allyson Morrison said it began producing low-gluten wafers on Wednesday. Ordinary wafers are made from baker's flour and water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 There is no reason the child could not have just recieved the Precious Blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 why do they not just receive the Precious Blood? WHY WHY WHY do they have to cause trouble when they are fully capable of receiving the whole Body and Blood of Christ under the appearance of wine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thicke Posted August 20, 2004 Author Share Posted August 20, 2004 WOW...Four out of four agree. Great minds really do think alike. It sounds to me like this mother is just wanting to make trouble. I hope she realizes the error of her ways. We should all pray for her. Also, thanks father for posting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappie Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I agree from my post above: He told The Age that especially sensitive coeliac sufferers are able to receive communion by leaving the wafer and taking wine from the chalice instead. "But very sensitive sufferers are not going to be disbarred from sacred communion because they can receive communion in just one kind," he said. Of course some priests will not let people receive from the chalice, on the other hand maybe the girl in question felt awkward if she would be the only person that day receiving from the chalice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marielapin Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 ok, when we went through RCIA we heard of a situation like this (in fact, a person with an allergy to wheat went to our parish). They found that people with an allergy to wheat are not allergic to a type of Egyptian wheat, the type found in the tomb of the pharohs, that people are now growing because the seeds have lasted that long. So there are hosts made of that particular kind of wheat just for them. It is still valid Eucharist because it is still wheat, and they still get a host. Its either that or just take the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 heard of that it is ridiculous. I don't think they understood the Diving Presence at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 This is huge in the area that I live in, what makes it even worse is that our church doesn't offer Communion in both forms, due to A) a lack of Eucharistic ministers and B) our parish is "too small." That's why I enjoy going to other parishes because I can recive the Blood of Christ while I"m there. Back to topic though. I don't see why the little girl just couldn't recive the Blood of Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 19 2004, 07:49 PM'] There is no reason the child could not have just recieved the Precious Blood. [/quote] I'll tell you why: She's either ignorant or selfish-- probably both. "Please change a 2000 year old tradition to suit my daughter even though a completely viable option (Precious Blood) exists..." She wants her daughter to be "like everyone else" when her medical needs make her a little different in this way. It's not like she's being denied the sacrament... People... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I agree with HSM, and most mothers want their children to be like everyone else dispite if they have something wrong with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Instead of making this a great learning opportunity for her daughter ("Hey, honey, isn't it wonderful that the Lord provides for your needs? See, you'll still be able to receive Christ under the species of wine... It's still the same-- all of Jesus! and you can do this every day of your life!") Instead, she uses it as a power trip... It sounds as if the mother isn't receiving communion either... what a shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalscout Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I posted this last week. There were some very cool replies. [url="http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=17867"]Communion[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureSoror Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 (edited) I have a friend who is, I guess you would say, 'allergic' to wheat. Or more specifically, wheat gleuton. It's not so serious with her that she can't recieve the host, though. Some people who have it more serious can recieve just a tiny little portion of the host. But I guess in this girl's case the logical thing would be to take the Precious Blood. Edited August 20, 2004 by FutureSoror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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