Tatoos

[J.R.D]

Well i had to see what the chuch said right?..... so i called a franciscan nun and she said " It's only wrong if u put an immoral tatt on ur body or somethin that hates God u know?..... But if u use it for good then its ok.... and church dsnt really hve an official say on it" she says...... o by the way she has lol that cool It's a cross on ur ancle she got it before she became a nun she said so.....

[J.R.D]

say no phat

[StColette]

well sounds like it's okay to me then, just no immoral tattoos

[StColette]

[quote name='J.R.D' date='Aug 16 2004, 06:09 PM'] say no phat [/quote]

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='StColette' date='Aug 16 2004, 06:08 PM'] seeee even PMers are starting to complain about me presence in Open Mic !! I'm welcome here aren't I phat ? [/quote]
mi casa, su casa

ur my girl colette

me ------>
you------> :cheer:


























































actually, this is probably more like it:

:plunger:

[J.R.D]

LOL Phat

[StColette]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Aug 16 2004, 07:55 PM'] mi casa, su casa

ur my girl colette

me ------>
you------> :cheer:


actually, this is probably more like it:

:plunger: [/quote]
awww phat thanks

[MichaelFilo]

The tattoo discussion was good, to an extent. I think the main thing you wanna consider here is this, is getting a tattoo a passing desire, or will it last forever? The only thing I'm saying is it is good to avoid indulging in the fulfillment of desires.

God bless and I hope you think before you ink,

Mikey

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='MichaelFilo' date='Aug 16 2004, 10:22 PM'] The tattoo discussion was good, to an extent. I think the main thing you wanna consider here is this, is getting a tattoo a passing desire, or will it last forever? The only thing I'm saying is it is good to avoid indulging in the fulfillment of desires.

God bless and I hope you think before you ink,

Mikey [/quote]
that's a good point Mikey, i hadn't thought about that.

[franciscanheart]

hmmm tattoos arent against church teaching even if they are offensive are they? i mean obviously the church would have a problem with it but there isnt anything written about it anywhere is therE? shouldnt we have something written out about that? hmmm just wondering.... maybe im wrong?

[StColette]

I found this article about tattoos and piercings

Dear Catholic Exchange:

Where does the Church stand on tattoos and body piercings, especially tongue piercing?

Thanks,
Natasha

Dear Natasha,

Greetings in Christ. Your question regards whether the Church has made pronouncements on tattoos and other forms of what some may consider “bodily enhancements,” which may include body piercing in general and tongue piercing in particular.

Some people might construe body piercing as a form of mutilation. The Church primarily uses the term “mutilation,” however, to describe serious or lethal injuries. For example, the Church uses the term regarding unjustifiable organ transplants: “It is morally inadmissible directly to bring about the disabling mutilation or death of a human being, even in order to delay the death of other persons” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 2296). The Catechism adds in no. 2297: “Except when performed for strictly therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations, and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law” (emphasis original, footnote omitted).

As we will see, however, Catholic theologians sometimes use the term “mutilation” to describe lesser actions that could include some types of body piercing.

The Church has never prohibited ear piercing, and, in the Bible, there is no prohibition against the wearing of earrings and nose rings (cf. Ezek. 16:12). In addition, we are not aware that the Church has made a pronouncement on tattoos, body piercing in general, or tongue piercing specifically. The Church, however, does provide principles that help in answering your questions.

There is, for example, the issue of totality to consider. According to this principle, the parts of one’s body are ordered to the good of that person. Thus, surgical mutilation or other disfigurement must not seriously impair or destroy bodily functions or the beauty of the individual (cf. Thomas O’Donnell, S.J., Medicine and Christian Morality: Second Revised and Updated Edition [New York: Alba House: New York, 1991], p. 122). In this light, because of a concern for the spread of disease and problems that could result from eating, tongue piercing specifically could be questioned. Tongue piercing could also be questioned on “appearance” grounds: specifically how it impairs one’s beauty and could unnecessarily alienate others that one encounters. Other forms of body piercing could also be questionable, depending on how they are done. In addition, regarding tattoos, some would definitely be morally objectionable because of their bodily placement and associated exhibition, as well as because of the images and associated messages of the tattoos themselves.

Depending on one’s culture, and because we should not serve as a stumbling block for fellow believers and prospective believers who may be scandalized or otherwise alienated (cf. 1 Cor. 8:9), a Catholic may have additional reason to refrain from body piercing and tattoos. In other words, Catholics should not behave in ways that will unnecessarily offend others and therefore impede the Church’s mission to make disciples of all nations (cf. Mt. 28:18-20).

Catholics should be mindful of these considerations regarding their own conduct while also being merciful toward those who may have (or get) tattoos or some type of body piercing. As evangelists called to make disciples of all nations, we must not allow ourselves to write people off because of their tattoos or body piercings. If they have not been won to Christ and His Church, we must strive to win them.

If you have further questions on this or would like more information about Catholics United for the Faith, please contact us at 1-800-MY-FAITH (693-2484). Please keep us in your prayers as we endeavor to “support, defend, and advance the efforts of the teaching Church.”

United in the Faith,

Thomas J. Nash
Senior Information Specialist

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[phatcatholic]

excellent article

[StColette]

thanx

[MichaelFilo]

I think I said all that in the tattoo debate and I was told I was getting nowhere. I must learn to articulate...

Anyways, thank you phatcatholic, I apreciate a kind comment (happen to be rare at times).

As far as StColette and phatCatholic, you have any personal views on the matter? Helps to know what what 2 educated people think .

God bless,

Mikey

[StColette]

[quote name='StColette' date='Aug 16 2004, 04:40 PM'] First of all it's wrong for that person to condemn you to Hell the way that they did. If what that person thinks about tattoos that everyone who has one is going to hell then a large portion of the world would be going. Plus it's God's call not that guy's call to say who's going to Hell and who isn't. This topic was brought up in the Debate Table not too long ago. I say as long as the tattoo is not evil in nature or immoral, then it is perfectly fine. I mean look at some of the tattoos people have, memoralizing lost friends or family members. Other people got tattoos for the Firemen after 9/11 happened. And then of course many people have religious tattoos of Jesus, Mary, the Sacred Heart etc. most get these types of religious tattoos to remind them of their Faith and that they are never alone for God is always with them. So I again see no problem with tattoos if it is a reminder of something, like changing from past ways or memoralizing someone or showing a symbol of your faith.

God Bless,
Jennie [/quote]
heehe my view on tattoos