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phatcatholic

[quote name='thedude' date='Aug 17 2004, 08:56 PM'] After major revisions and additions, its done! It was too large to attach to this post, so I uploaded it online as an "html" document (should also make it easier to read). Tell me what you think!
[url="http://www.wcnet.org/~mjmarsh/againstfeeneyism.html"]http://www.wcnet.org/~mjmarsh/againstfeeneyism.html[/url] [/quote]
dude, i'm impressed. this is goin in the reference section, not as a "quote from a phatmass member" but as a link to an article, just like the rest of them. look for your link in the "Salvation" entry under "Outside the Church, No Salvation"

thanks bro,
phatcatholic

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EcceNovaFacioOmni

Thank the Holy Spirit. I wouldn't have put the time into it that I did unless He was pushing me along. And you should be thanking yourselves. Your suggestions really shaped the direction of the document while I was revising it.

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EcceNovaFacioOmni

I am in the process of getting free hosting space. When the link to the document changes, I'll let you know.

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EcceNovaFacioOmni

Done. Access it here:
[url="http://www.cathworld.org/worlds/bible/thedude/againstfeeneyism.html"]http://www.cathworld.org/worlds/bible/thed...tfeeneyism.html[/url]

It is no longer accessible at the old location.

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EcceNovaFacioOmni

Sweetness. Where is it at? Not knocking cathworld.org or anything, but I only get 250kb of space and not many options. Do you get FTP uploading?

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phatcatholic

[quote name='thedude' date='Aug 18 2004, 05:52 PM'] Sweetness. Where is it at? Not knocking cathworld.org or anything, but I only get 250kb of space and not many options. Do you get FTP uploading? [/quote]
shoot, i dunno, i just did it for the heck of it in case i need it for the reference section. i haven't really played w/ it yet. the account is "phatcatholic" in the "bible" world.

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[quote name='"cardinal Ratzinger"'] It is part of the Church's ancient, traditional teaching that every man is called to salvation and de facto can be saved if he sincerely follows the precepts of his own conscience, even without being a visible member of the Catholic Church. This teaching, however . . . has been put forward in an extreme form since the Council on the basis of theories like that of "anonymous Christians." Ultimately it has been proposed that grace is always given provided that a person—believing in no religion at all or subscribing to any religion whatsoever—accepts himself as a human being. That is all that is necessary. According to these theories the Christian "plus" is only that he is <aware> of this grace, which inheres actually in all people, whether baptized or not. Hand in hand, then, with the weakening of the necessity of baptism, went the overemphasis on the values of the non-Christian religions, which many theologians saw not as <extraordinary> paths of salvation but precisely as <ordinary> ones.[/quote]

I thought that this quote fits really well here.

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Yes

I have to look for it again, but it is Cardinal Ratzinger commenting on Carl Rahner's idea of "Anoymous Christians."(id est people who are christian with out being baptized)

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EcceNovaFacioOmni

BTW, new update today. Very powerful. The Roman Catechism (Catechism of Trent) joins the fold.

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