Please Help

[curtins]

ok some of you may know that i am throwing away all my burned cds and buying them because it is infringment on copyright to burn a cd if you dont own it and to continue to listen to that cd is wrong as well (using stolen material)

ok so i beleive you guys when you told me this- but trying to tell other ppl such as my freinds this- is not very easy- they say- are we supposed to beleive sum ppl we dont even know on a forum?

I NEED IT IN TEXT THAT SAYS ITS ILEAGAL AND IMMORAL TO COPY CDS THAT ARNT YOURS AND IF POSSIBLE SOMETHING THAT SAYS ITS WRONG TO LISTEN TO THEM AS WELL.


I REALLY NEED THIS

thanks

[MichaelFilo]

What convinced you?? you may try open mic, there were some old threads about it... the debate table also had some.

God bless,

Mikey

[curtins]

ppl on the forum told me

[StColette]

[quote]Copying CDs could be serious sin under some circumstances
Question:
Is copying things like music CDs or computer CDs borrowed from others a mortal sin?

Answer:
The opinion of some theologians is that it is moral to copy software programs only if:

1) These programs are no longer the current edition and therefore they are no longer in the market. In this case it is considered that the holders of the copyright have already obtained the expected financial benefits from their product.

2) This copy is for personal use, not commercial purposes.

Something similar applies to music. It is not permissible to copy a CD borrowed from a library or obtained from a shop so that it can be returned for refund after making the copy.

There seems not to be a problem in copying a specific piece of music from a legitimately purchased CD provided that:

1) The CD is not easily available in the market any more.

2) This is not an habitual way of enriching one’s music collection.

3) The copied music is not used for commercial purposes.

If copying constitutes a theft, a mortal sin is committed when the theft is made in full awareness of its sinfulness, with full consent and in a serious matter, i.e. when (all circumstances being standard) the monetary value of the theft is at least equal to the daily wage of a worker.

The problem is not an easy one. If you want to know more about its intricacies, consult German Grisez, The Way of Our Lord Jesus Christ, vol. III: “Difficult moral questions,” question no. 138.

- Msgr. Pedro Lopez-Gallo [/quote]

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[quote]Dear Catholic Exchange:

I want to say that I do enjoy receiving your Words of Encouragement each morning. They do give me much food for thought and often help me to focus on what is truly important.

However, this morning, I was puzzled and disagreed with your thoughts about stealing music. I asked my son, Luke, who is more computer savvy than myself and this was his reply:

If this were in fact the rationale, it would be valid, but it isn't. It rests on a number of popular bad assumptions, chiefly, that one would otherwise buy the CD. The availability of mp3s has not changed my buying habits at all. It has changed one thing and that is, instead of listening to the radio in my room, with DJs that I largely dislike; I am listening to mp3s in my room. How is it theft to stop using one free media (the radio) in favor of a different free media (the mp3 files)?

Similarly, when I make a CD from mp3s, I have replaced the earlier method of recording songs off the radio onto blank cassette tapes. While it is easier to do it with mp3 files than it was with cassette tapes, the author below correctly identifies that it would be theft, if and only if, I were to start selling my home-made CDs.
I look forward to your response to his thoughts.

Thank you for helping to spread the Good News of Jesus!

In God's love,
Ann Schierer

Dear Ann and Luke:

Artists have agreements with radio stations. The music is broadcast with the artist's permission and is, of course, a form of advertising for the artist's work so that the artist will receive due payment for his labor in the form of purchases of his work. That arrangement is between the artist and the radio station. It does not follow from this arrangement that we have the right to take the fruit of the artist's labor, any more than it follows that, because they hand out little taste samples of sausage at the grocery store, we therefore have the right to walk off with all the sausage in the meat section. Similarly, the store owner would not be much consoled to know that the sausages we stole were not resold, but merely eaten by us when we got home. The simple fact would remain that we took his sausage without paying for it.

Now some artists have deliberately opted to make some of their work available via free downloads as a form of advertising akin to radio broadcasting, and I see no problem with taking them up on their offer just as there is no problem with tasting the sausage they offer at the grocery store. But where permission has not been granted, and we take that which we have not paid for, it's theft of intellectual property.

Mark Shea
Senior Content Editor
Catholic Exchange [/quote]
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[curtins]

St. Colette- God bless you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you so much


if anyone has any more- keep em coming

especially if theres sum about how it is ILLEAGAL

[StColette]

here's another one [url="http://bcc.rcav.org/00-04-17/c-vogel.htm"]http://bcc.rcav.org/00-04-17/c-vogel.htm[/url]

[MorphRC]

Curtins. All CD's Have Copyright. Theres Your Proof Mate

[StColette]

lol good point Morph

[MorphRC]

Ty. I do my best work with stating the obvious

[phatcatholic]

MorphRC ----------> Master of the Obvious

[StColette]

lol among other things but I'm gonna be nice hehehe I'm only pickin Morph

[MorphRC]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Aug 16 2004, 05:07 PM'] MorphRC ----------> Master of the Obvious [/quote]
[b]Bow To My Over-Whelming Knowledge Of Obvious Facts[/b]

[MorphRC]

[quote name='StColette' date='Aug 16 2004, 05:12 PM'] lol among other things but I'm gonna be nice hehehe I'm only pickin Morph [/quote]
Why do people keep saying that?

Ive known you for almost 3 years, I know your sense of humour

[StColette]

[quote name='MorphRC' date='Aug 16 2004, 03:46 AM'] Why do people keep saying that?

Ive known you for almost 3 years, I know your sense of humour [/quote]
lol I know I was just simply reminding u just in case you forgot lol

[MorphRC]

Lol Yeah