MC Just Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Ok so, at the parish here they had a booth outside to register to vote. Me and my wife registered and then the topic of democrats and republicans came up and the lady at the booth started saying things like "Republicans only care about the rich" "they only care about money" She also said that the priest is also democrat, therefore she will be...The issue of abortion came up and it's "they have their choices" . It really upsets me. How can Catholics be like this?? It's like they think they are right and the teachings of the Church are wrong!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 You met one of the hundreds of millions of pew warmer catholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Aug 15 2004, 10:00 AM'] You met one of the hundreds of millions of pew warmer catholics. [/quote] yeah sadly... Dissenters.. how sad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 dude i hear you- its like that gov. magreevy- he calls himself a devout Catholic. yet he is having an afair with a dude, supports gay marriage, and supports abortion- idk man its like NO ONE man or woman has the right to kill anyone- including a baby. republicans only care about the rich???? is that why Reagan's economic policy helped pave the way for the good economic conditions for EVERYONE in the 90's?? that wasnt clintons working- he was too busy with monica. and Bush's tax cuts give more to the rich because- THE RICH PAY MORE TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU GET A CUT RELATIVE TO HOW MUCH YOU PAY!!!!!!!!! WHY DONT THESE LIBRALS GET THIS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 When the Democratic Party abandons the immoral positions it has taken on social issues (abortion, euthanasia, homosexual "rights", homosexual marriage, etc.), then perhaps I can once again be a Democrat. The right to life is the fundamental right upon which all other rights based, and if it is not defended, there can be no real justice. God bless, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 [quote name='curtins' date='Aug 15 2004, 10:03 AM'] dude i hear you- its like that gov. magreevy- he calls himself a devout Catholic. yet he is having an afair with a dude, supports gay marriage, and supports abortion- idk man its like NO ONE man or woman has the right to kill anyone- including a baby. republicans only care about the rich???? is that why Reagan's economic policy helped pave the way for the good economic conditions for EVERYONE in the 90's?? that wasnt clintons working- he was too busy with monica. and Bush's tax cuts give more to the rich because- THE RICH PAY MORE TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU GET A CUT RELATIVE TO HOW MUCH YOU PAY!!!!!!!!! WHY DONT THESE LIBRALS GET THIS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! [/quote] I hear you there, try telling some of these people that. Bush would get shot if he showed up here, that's how some of them feel. It's terrible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Bush cut taxes in the 200,000-500,000 income range. Who earns that much money? Small business owners. What happens when small business owners earn more or have less taxes? They create more jobs. Hellllooooo? Anyone in there??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Aug 15 2004, 10:04 AM'] When the Democratic Party abandons the immoral positions it has taken on social issues (abortion, euthanasia, homosexual "rights", homosexual marriage, etc.), then perhaps I can once again be a Democrat. The right to life is the fundamental right from which all other rights come, and if it is not defended, there can be no real justice. God bless, Todd [/quote] My wife's family, just about all except for one I met (a really cool devout Catholic republican) are all democrats. I'm not sure if every single one are pro-choice though. It's a possibility.... the main complaint always has something to do with money.. Edited August 15, 2004 by MC Just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 [quote name='MC Just' date='Aug 15 2004, 08:11 AM'] My wife's family, just about all except for one I met (a really cool devout Catholic republican) are all democrats. I'm not sure if every single one are pro-choice though. It's a possibility.... the main complaint always has something to do with money.. [/quote] I'm sure that there are some members of the Democratic Party that are pro-life, but I left the Party when I realized that it was hopelessly in the control of forces inimical to the Catholic faith. The Democratic Party of today is not the Democratic Party of 40 years ago. God bless, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 amen. if it was the old democratic party, that is a party I would consider joining and voting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 MC Just... didn't you move up to the NorthEast? Totally different political views than what you're used to. Sorry dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 (edited) I'm living in south texas now... Yeah it's very liberal up north, esp in massachusetts... Edited August 15, 2004 by MC Just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Oh wow, when did you move back? Dude, you found that attitude in south TEXAS? Man, that's whack. It is incredibly sad when Catholics think they can justify abortion as a choice. It goes back to not being educated in Church doctrine. Something that was incredibly lax in the seventies. And now we're reaping the benefits of the uneducated. But we must perservere! Perhaps a discussion with the priest at this parish is in order. See if he is preaching this idea of choice. And if he is, send a letter to the bishop, (isn't your bishop, Archbishop Patrick Flores?), then decide to either fight the good fight there at that parish, or shake the dust from your feet and move on to a parish more in line with doctrine. Either way, you must stand up for the Truth! But you know that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 I was in massachusetts for 2 weeks, I didnt get the job that my fam had told me i would have as soon as i got there on top of that my wife lost her's in texas... I had to ride a greyhound all the way back to texas because i didnt have the money for a plane.. I got stuck in Ny because of bad weather and had to sleep on a cold wet floor....So When I got back me and my wife moved to south texas (rio grande valley). The bishop in my diocese is Bishop Pena. I havent heard direct comments by the priests regarding pro-choicers, yet but it's obvious many of the parishoners are dissenters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelFilo Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 It is too bad the democrat party changed so much. It went super-liberal, or else I'd be a democrat myself. Anyways, any Catholic who is pro-choice but not pro-abortion is anti-Catholic cause he is lieing to themselves. You can't give a person a grenade and expect them to not use it. This is true especially if they don't know the power of one. Same for Catholics who want to give the power of murder to those who don't know how much murder taxes someones mind (esp. if they never knew it was murder, but were told otherwise). Oh man, the other day my friend said that Kerry was really only Pro-Choice, not pro-abortion. I was like he plans to use taxes to pay for abortions... and then he got mad. God bless, Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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