Guest T-Bone Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Aug 14 2004, 06:19 PM'] Second admendment says that "a milta" can bear arms. Privite citizens are not part of a well regulated milta. You tend to overlook that. [/quote] Actually, the second admendment says that the "people" have a right to keep and bear arms. NOT the militia. It is the militia that needs to be regulated by the people. Note that every article of the Bill of Rights LIMITS the powers of government. The body of the Constitution gives the Federal Government power, but the Bill of Rights takes power away from the Government. Why would there be one lone admendment that would give the federal government power, when the other nine take power away. It doesn't make sence. "The people" mentioned in the second admendment are just that--the people, ordinary citizens, not members of the "militia." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 Yes Ive read alittle bit of Japaness history, and it gets long after awhile, same with European lol, and American lol etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Lol I borrowed one book from the library of the kings and queens of France. It was..and I do not joke. 3500 Pages. Just on the kings and queens, didnt go into major social development informationa and that. Tooks me 2 months to fully read and re-read parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 dang lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Yep. There was another one, by a different company of the English Kings and Queens, that was 2700pgs long, but i was like...errr thats enuf for now..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 ok can we scrap the sword talk and maybe talk about mp5's instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Swords are an interesting invention. They are one of the few weapons that is solely for killing. Most other weapons develop from tools for hunting, harvesting and the like. The sword has always been a weapon to be used on people. Guns, while also invented to kill people, have a practical application in hunting. I want to own a gun, small enough for my future wife to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Stare Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 My thought on the original question is no i probably wont own a gun. I live in a small town, sure im surrounded my rednecks in dropped down, pimped s-10 pickups with gunracks in the back window (trust me they look dumb), but its still a fairly safe place. I think country-wide, the US should be MUCH more decisive in who they allow to own a firearm. it should be a privilage for all citizens unless, i dont know, some screaning process or something says otherwise (i know it wouldnt really work out, too many flaws). and should a major change in that persons life that adds to stress or emotional trauma, the privilage should be immediately suspended untill the person is seen fit to possess the firearm. maybe if that were the case someone i loved would still be around. by the way, Paladin, White knight -swords all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 [quote name='socalscout' date='Aug 14 2004, 11:38 AM'] Let me conclude this by saying that a gun has one purpose so the need to use it must be grave. Having to use a lethal weapon is not of God. No good can come from it even if it protects your life but sometimes those things must happen I guess. [/quote] agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 [quote name='T-Bone' date='Aug 16 2004, 02:54 AM'] Actually, the second admendment says that the "people" have a right to keep and bear arms. NOT the militia. It is the militia that needs to be regulated by the people. Note that every article of the Bill of Rights LIMITS the powers of government. The body of the Constitution gives the Federal Government power, but the Bill of Rights takes power away from the Government. Why would there be one lone admendment that would give the federal government power, when the other nine take power away. It doesn't make sence. "The people" mentioned in the second admendment are just that--the people, ordinary citizens, not members of the "militia." [/quote] [quote]A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. [/quote] The USSC has ruled in [i]United States v. Miller[/i] that a weapon (in this case a "shotgun with a barrel of less than 18 inchs") is not a right under the 2nd Admendment because it cannot be shown "at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well- regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument." The court also definded the militia as an armed body, under control of the State, outside of the Army, that is made ''civilians primarily, soldiers on occasion.'' The citizens have the right to bear arms in a regulated Militia. As of late most militias have been disbanded and replaced with the National Guard. The people in the statement is refering to, as the Court understands and interpets it, as to refer to members of the militia. Not privite citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 [quote name='curtins' date='Aug 16 2004, 11:47 PM'] ok can we scrap the sword talk and maybe talk about mp5's instead? [/quote] Lol Yeh in a weapons thread. What ya gonna do, Disco them to death! HA HA HA and so on and so forth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 [quote name='curtins' date='Aug 16 2004, 08:17 AM'] ok can we scrap the sword talk and maybe talk about mp5's instead? [/quote] lol, can't do that, if you ditch the Sword topic you ditch the whole weapons topic. Swords are just as much of a deadly weapon as a Ball Ink Pen is. in the right hands, or tradegically in the wrong hands, its amazing that everything were surrounded by can be used as a weapon of some sort and quailfies as one. So if you ditch the sword topic your ditching the whole topic all together man lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Hmmmm, guns. Had the chance to aquire one after I was attacked. Had 4 cops who filled out affadavits stating that I was responsible enough and required a firearm for protection. Couldnt bring myself to finish the process though, dont know why. Maybe I was worried that it would fall into the hands of the guy who wished to attack me in my home. (Hey look here, a gun. And she thought she could hide it behind this fake wall and I wouldnt find it. Lets see if she likes having it pointed at her, Im sure the bullets are around here...oh, here there are! 4 rooms away...like I wouldnt find them...silly girl. What time does she get home) Yeah, my imagination has a field day at times. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetarplayer Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I've never had to resort to violence and, God willing, I never will. 'Nuff said. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 But wouldn't you agree though people that everything you obtian, have or own can be used as a weapon of some sort? even though it may not be its attention? Cars are deadly weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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