socalscout Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 I posted this in Open Mic but I would like someone to sway the logic the other way. Here is the link. I want to be wrong on this. [url="http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=17576"]http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=17576[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalscout Posted August 10, 2004 Author Share Posted August 10, 2004 [quote name='socalscout' date='Aug 9 2004, 06:50 PM'] I posted this in Open Mic but I would like someone to sway the logic the other way. Here is the link. I want to be wrong on this. [url="http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=17576"]http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=17576[/url] [/quote] Please do not take offense but Ash Wednessday asked for more help on this so I took the initiative. Again I appreciate what you have said but I actually want to see something written that would sway the logic so I posted it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 That's fine, I was just confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 if you make a public sin, a public apology is required. leaders are held to a higher standard. the bishops should demand a public statement condemning their previous actions. it is in line with the tradition of the Church that when a Catholic publically acts contrary to the Church, they are required to make a public confession of the True Faith which they were working against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Is it a sin to publically support abortion or say you do? Yes! [quote name='"Baltimore Catechism"']Q. What then is the most important part of the preparation for confession? A.The mos important part of the preparation for confession is sincere sorrow for the sins committed and the firm determination to avoid them for the future.[/quote] We must amend the way we are living, so we must stop support abortion in this case... It used to be that your confessor would have to give you permission to receive Holy Communion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalscout Posted August 10, 2004 Author Share Posted August 10, 2004 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Aug 9 2004, 07:05 PM'] Is it a sin to publically support abortion or say you do? Yes! [quote name='"Baltimore Catechism"']Q. What then is the most important part of the preparation for confession? A.The mos important part of the preparation for confession is sincere sorrow for the sins committed and the firm determination to avoid them for the future.[/quote] We must amend the way we are living, so we must stop support abortion in this case... It used to be that your confessor would have to give you permission to receive Holy Communion. [/quote] Thanks everyone. I see now that reparations must be made public. I am still a little confused though on the secrecy of Confession if one is required to make a public reparation but if it is then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Public sins aren't very private to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalscout Posted August 10, 2004 Author Share Posted August 10, 2004 (edited) [quote name='qfnol31' date='Aug 9 2004, 07:05 PM'] Is it a sin to publically support abortion or say you do? Yes! [quote name='"Baltimore Catechism"']Q. What then is the most important part of the preparation for confession? A.The mos important part of the preparation for confession is sincere sorrow for the sins committed and the firm determination to avoid them for the future.[/quote] We must amend the way we are living, so we must stop support abortion in this case... It used to be that your confessor would have to give you permission to receive Holy Communion. [/quote] You are preaching to choir here about the weight of this sin. I understand the public reparations now but what if his confessor does not require him to do so is he still forgiven and reinstated into the Church? If so how would a Priest or extraordinary Misniter know that without breaking the secrecy of Confession? Edited August 10, 2004 by socalscout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madonna Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 (edited) [quote] I understand the public reparations now but what if his confessor does not require him to do so is he still forgiven and reinstated into the Church? [/quote] In the instance of John Kerry, there is no ways any upstanding priest would reinstate him unless he publicly renounced his stance on abortion. [quote] If so how would a Priest or extraordinary Misniter know that without breaking the secrecy of Confession?[/quote] Given the above, the priest or extraordinary minister would know since the public figure needs to publicly renounce his previous view. Edited August 10, 2004 by Madonna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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