MorphRC Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) [font="Times"][b]M[/b][/font]any Jews in our societies, claim that anti-semiticism is on the rise, a proven fact in Europe, with gravestones, synagogues and graffitti usually being the weapons of hatred. But what do the Jews believe about gentiles, more specifically, Christians. These are direct statements from the Talmud. [i]Microsoft Encarta 2004 Standard[/i] states the Talmud as[b]:[/b] [b]Talmud[/b] [i]Talmud (late Hebrew, “instruction”)[/i], body of Jewish civil and religious law, including commentaries on the Torah, or Pentateuch. The Talmud consists of a codification of laws, called the Mishnah, and a commentary on the Mishnah, called the Gemara. The material in the Talmud that concerns decisions by scholars on disputed legal questions is known as the Halakah; the legends, anecdotes, and sayings in the Talmud that are used to illustrate the traditional law are known as Haggada. Two compilations of the Talmud exist: the Palestinian Talmud, sometimes called the Jerusalem Talmud, and the Babylonian Talmud. Both compilations contain the same Mishnah, but each has its own Gemara. The contents of the Palestinian Talmud were written by Palestinian scholars between the 3rd century ad and the beginning of the 5th century; those of the Babylonian Talmud, by scholars who wrote between the 3rd century and the beginning of the 6th century. The Babylonian Talmud became authoritative because the rabbinic academies of Babylonia survived those in Palestine by many centuries. The Talmud itself, the works of Talmudic scholarship, and the commentaries concerning it constitute the greatest contributions to rabbinical literature in the history of Judaism. One of the most important of the works of scholarship is the Mishneh Torah (Repetition of the Torah, c. 1180) by the Spanish rabbi, philosopher, and physician Maimonides; it is an abstract of all the rabbinical legal literature in existence at his time. The most widely known commentaries are those on the Babylonian Talmud by the French rabbi Rashi and by certain scholars known as tosaphists, who lived in France and Germany between the 12th and 14th centuries and included some of Rashi's grandsons. The Babylonian Talmud and the Palestinian Talmud were first printed in 1520-1522 and in 1523 in Venice by the printer Daniel Bomberg. Twenty tractates of the Palestinian Talmud are found in a Latin translation, in the Thesaurus Antiquitatum Sacrarum (1744-1769) of Blasio Ugolino, an 18th-century Italian historian and antiquarian.[color=blue][b][1][/b][/color] [b]Names For Christians:[/b] [b]1.[/b] [i]Abhodah Zarah[/i] - Strange worship, idolatry. The Talmudic Tract on Idolatry is thus entitled: [i]Obhde Abhodah Zarah [/i]- Idol Worshippers. That [i]Abhodah Zarah[/i] really means the cult of idols is clear from the Talmud itself: "Let Nimrod come and testify that Abraham was not a server of Abhodah Zarah ." But in these days of Abraham there existed no strange cult either of the Turks or the Nazarenes, but only the worship of the true God and idolatry. In [i]Schabbath[/i] (ibid. 82a), it says: "[color=green][i]Rabbi Akibah says: How do we know that [I]Abhodah Zarah[/i], like an unclean woman, contaminates those who subscribe to it? Because Isaiah says: [i]Thou shalt cast them away like a menstruation cloth; and shalt say unto it, Get thee hence[/i]."[/I][/color] In the first part of this verse mention is made of idols made from gold and silver. The learned Maimonides also clearly demonstrates that the Jews regarded Christians as Abhodah Zarah. In Perusch (78c) he says: "And be it known that Christian people who follow Jesus, although their teachings vary, are all worshippers of idols ([i]Abhodah Zarah[/i])."[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]2.[/b] [i]Akum[/i] - This word is made up of the initial letters of the words [i]Obhde Kokhabkim U Mazzaloth[/i] - worshippers of stars and planets. It was thus that the Jews formerly styled the Gentiles who lacked all knowledge of the true God. Now, however, the word [i]Akum[/i] in Jewish books, especially in the [i]Schulkhan Arukh[/i], is applied to Christians. This is evident from numerous passages: In the [i]Orach Chaiim[/i] (113,8) those who use a cross are called [i]Akum[/i]. In the Iore Dea (148, 5, 12), those who celebrate the feasts of Christmas and New Year, eight days afterwards, are called worshippers of the stars and planets: "Thus if a gift is sent to the Akum, even in these times, on the eighth day after Christmas, which they call the New Year," etc.[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]3.[/b] [i]Obhde Elilim[/i] - Servers of idols. This name has the same meaning as [i]Akum[/i]. Non-Jews are frequently called by this name. In the Orach [i]Chaiim[/i], for example (215, 5), it says: "A blessing should not be pronounced over incense which belongs to the servers of idols." But at the same time when the [i]Schulkhan Arukh[/i] was written there were no worshippers of the stars and planets ([i]Akum[/i]); there were no 'servers of idols' among those who lived with the Jews. Thus, for example, the author of the Commentary on the [i]Schulkhan Arukh[/i] (entitled [i]Magen Abraham[/i]), Rabbi Calissensis who died in Poland in 1775, in note 8, on No. 244 of the [i]Orach Chaiim[/i] (where it is allowed to finish a work on the Sabbath with the help of an Akum) says: "Here in our city the question is raised about the price of hiring worshippers of the stars and planets who sweep the public streets when they work on the Sabbath."[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]4.[/b] [i]Minim[/i] - Heretics. In the Talmud those who possess books called the Gospels are heretics. Thus in [i]Schabbath[/i] (116a) it says: "Rabbi Meir calls the books of the [i]Minim Aven Gilaion[/i] [iniquitous volumes] because they call them Gospels."[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]5.[/b] [i]Edom[/i] - Edomites. Rabbi Aben Ezra, when he speaks about the Emperor Constantine who changed his religion and placed the image of him who was hanged on his banner, adds: "Rome therefore is called the Kingdom of the Edomites." And Rabbi Bechai, in his [i]Kad Hakkemach[/i] (fol. 20a, on Isaiah, ch. LXVI, 17) writes: "They are called Edomites who move their fingers 'here and there'" (who make the sign of the cross). Likewise Rabbi Bechai, commenting on the words of Isaiah (loc. cit.), "those who eat the flesh of swine" adds: "These are the Edomites." Rabbi Kimchi, however, calls them "Christians." And Rabbi Abarbinel, in his work [i]Maschima Ieschua[/i] (36d) says: "The Nazarenes are Romans, the sons of Edom."[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]6.[/b] [i]Goi[/i] - Race, or people. The Jews also call a man a Goi - a gentile; they call a gentile woman a [i]Goiah[/i]. Sometimes, but very rarely, Israelites are called by this name. It is mostly applied to non-Jews, or idolators. In Jewish books which treat of Idolatry, worshippers of idols are often called by this single word [i]Goi[/i]. For this reason, in more recent editions of the Talmud the use of the word Goi is purposely avoided and other words for non-Jews are substituted. It is well known that in the Jewish language, the Jews call Christians among whom they live, [i]Goim[/i]. Nor do the Jews deny this. Sometimes in their popular magazines they say that this word means nothing harmful or evil. But the contrary can be seen in their books written in the Hebrew language. For instance, in [i]Choschen Hammischpat[/i] (34, 22), the name [i]Goi[/i] is used in a depraved sense: "Traitors and Epicureans and Apostates are worse than [i]Goim[/i]"[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]7.[/b] [i]Nokhtrim[/i] - strangers, foreigners. This name is used for all who are not Jews, and therefor for Christians.[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]8.[/b] [i]Amme Haarets[/i] - People of the earth, idiots. There are some who say that people of other races are not meant by this, but only crude and uneducated people. There are passages, however, which leave no doubt about the matter. In the Holy Scripture, Book of Esra, ch. X, 2, we read: [i]We have sinned against our God, and have taken strange wives [nokhrioth] of the people of the earth[/i]. That people of the earth denotes idolators is clear from Zohar, I, 25a: "The People of the earth - [i]Obhde Abhodah Zarah[/i], idolaters.[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]9.[/b] [i]Basar Vedam[/i] - Flesh and blood; carnal men who are destined to perdition and who can have no communion with God. That Christians are [i]flesh and blood[/i], is proved from the prayer book: "Whoever meets a wise and educated Christian can say: Blessed art thou O Lord, King of the Universe, who dispenseth of thy wisdom to Flesh and Blood," etc. Likewise in another prayer, in which they ask God soon to restore the kingdom of David and to send Elias and the Messia, etc., they aak him to take away their poverty so that they will have no need to accept gifts from "flesh and blood," nor to trade with them, nor to seek wages from them.[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]10.[/b] [i]Apikorosim[/i] - Epicureans. All are called by this name who do not observe God's precepts, as well as all those, even Jews themselves, who express private judgments in matters of faith. How much more, therefore, Christians![color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]11.[/b] [i]Kuthim[/i] - Samaritans. But since there are no longer any Samaritans, and since there are many references in recent Jewish books to Samaritans, who can doubt that this does not mean the Christians? Furthermore, in this matter of naming those who are not Jews, it is to be particularly noted that Jewish writings apply these names indiscriminately and promiscuously when they speak of the same thing, and almost in the same words. For instance, in the [i]Tract Abhodah Zarah[/i] (25b) the word [i]Goi[/i] is employed, but in the [i]Schulkhan Arukh[/i] (Iore Dea 153, 2) [i]Akum[/i] is used. [i]Kerithuth[/i] (6b) uses [i]Goim[/i]; [i]Jebhammoth[/i] (61a) uses [i]Akum[/i]; [i]Abhodah Zar[/i]. (2a) uses [i]Obhde Elilim[/i]; Thoseph [i]uses Goim and Obhde Ab[/i]., [i]Choschen Ham[/i] (Venetian ed.) uses [i]Kuthi[/i]; (Slav. ed.) [i]Akum[/i]. And many more instances could be quoted. Maimonides in his book on Idolatry indiscriminately calls all the following idolators: [i]Goim, Akum, Obhde Kokhabhim, Obhde Elilim[/i], etc.[color=blue][b][2][/b][/color] [b]--------------------------------------------------------------------[/b] [b][1][/b] Talmud (late Hebrew, “instruction”) Microsoft ® Encarta ® Encyclopedia 2004. © 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. [b][2][/b] [url="http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud1.htm"]The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians: Rev. I. B. Pranaitis [/url] [b]Extra Detail:[/b] [i]Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical Academy of the Roman Catholic Church in Old St. Petersburg.[/i] [i]St. Petersburg Printing office of the Imperial Academy of Sciences 1892[/i] [b]IMPRIMATUR[/b] [i]St. Petersburg, April 13, 1892 KOZLOWSKY Archbishop Metropolitan of Moghileff[/i] Edited August 9, 2004 by MorphRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 hmmmmm, interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 10, 2004 Author Share Posted August 10, 2004 Dont take it as anti-semitic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 [quote name='MorphRC' date='Aug 10 2004, 01:06 AM'] Dont take it as anti-semitic. [/quote] you mean "anti-christian"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 No the way you seem to type that comment, I thought you thinking since its not a positive comment about Jews and their faith, u might class it as racist - anti-jewish. Ive got the Anti-Semitic Bug. Not the racist one, but where you hear so much of it, that your ultra-careful about anything you type. I think im brainwashed ..seriously. I gotta break this thinking, its like a guilt trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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