reelguy227 Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 thanks ,so many resources to study ,i better hit the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Creation [url="http://www.armageddonbooks.com/grant.html"]http://www.armageddonbooks.com/grant.html[/url] This book explores the powerful new evidence discovered in the last few decades by scientific research in astronomy, the nature of the atom and DNA. These discoveries have caused a revolution in the world view of thousands of scientists as they were confronted with compelling new evidence that our universe must have been created by a Supernatural Mind. Creation will challenge readers with fascinating new information that confirms the Bible's claim that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." 282 pages, paper, bibliography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiat_Voluntas_Tua Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 We can not convert anyone...Yes, we can educate people, and maybe 'convert their minds' but what good is the mind if the heart doesn't follow...It takes love for conversion...thats the only way. I would say that the best thing to do is just be Christ for them...So that from knowing you they can come to know Christ. Also check out the Phatmass reference section. Ave Maria, Andy PS what is the Forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 If you wanna fight it with Basic and Advanced Science you can, but Prayer is a better weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 ya prayer is the best weapon .yu guys should join the forum ,that would be funny ,we would totally shut those atheists and agnosts up .the forum is www.swbattlefront.net ,register with the site ,yu just have to give your email address and make up a name and password i think ,then you should click on forums ,then click on the sliced tauntaun,the discussion threads names are ,republicans come here ,why do yu believe in God?,and usa succesor ,yu could just come onto the forum and watch the debate. yu can just do what i said above ,but just not register to be with the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 [quote name='reelguy227' date='Aug 11 2004, 01:03 PM'] ya prayer is the best weapon .yu guys should join the forum ,that would be funny ,we would totally shut those atheists and agnosts up .the forum is www.swbattlefront.net ,register with the site ,yu just have to give your email address and make up a name and password i think ,then you should click on forums ,then click on the sliced tauntaun,the discussion threads names are ,republicans come here ,why do yu believe in God?,and usa succesor ,yu could just come onto the forum and watch the debate. yu can just do what i said above ,but just not register to be with the forum. [/quote] Ahhh man didn't know it was a Star Wars site, lol, oh well, its just a movie franchise, a really popluar one that is. Sure I'll help ya ASAP.If I can't sign up under a famlair name, then I'll just go under a Star Wars Name. Be There When I get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiat_Voluntas_Tua Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 reelguy...if you are going to prove that God exist's...you haveto have patience. Ave Maria, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 check this out... this is a response to the "life was an accident" ok so if life was an accident, then thought was an accident so that first thought and every other thought after it is an accident so, the thought that life is an accident, is an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted August 11, 2004 Author Share Posted August 11, 2004 i do have patience fiat ,its just sometimes i want to rip my hair out with these people and shake them ,they are just so stubborn in their beliefs and every miracle to them is a hoax ,i cant take it anymore ,but i will be patient and fight the good fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 [quote name='reelguy227' date='Aug 11 2004, 03:02 PM'] i do have patience fiat ,its just sometimes i want to rip my hair out with these people and shake them ,they are just so stubborn in their beliefs and every miracle to them is a hoax ,i cant take it anymore ,but i will be patient and fight the good fight. [/quote] Thats cool, well I'm going to try signing up now, I tryed earlier, but the forums were down. I'll cya there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 [quote name='White Knight' date='Aug 12 2004, 04:17 AM'] If you wanna fight it with Basic and Advanced Science you can, but Prayer is a better weapon. [/quote] I disagree Bro. Prayer only works if the person is open to it. You have to open to God before he will do something. We make the first move, then he finishes it for us. Allah Akbar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 [quote name='MorphRC' date='Aug 12 2004, 03:48 AM'] I disagree Bro. Prayer only works if the person is open to it. You have to open to God before he will do something. We make the first move, then he finishes it for us. Allah Akbar! [/quote] But see the Lord can "through" "prayer" can change someones heart, without us first confronting it, He can open a persons heart, without us even meeting or talking with the person, would you agree with that? Prayer works always, Always, its a very very powerful tool & weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Morph, be careful of Pelagianism. I'm not sayin your stuff is pelagian, just that you should watch out cause your statement borders on it. it's GOD's power saving us, and if we excercise the power of free will that is a power GIVEN TO US BY GOD to be open to His Grace we will increase in Holiness. He will not infringe upon our free will (because He empowers it and gives it to us so we can use it to choose Him), but He can nudge at a person's heart. Jesus didn't infringe upon Saul's free will on the road to Damascus, but He did convert Him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorphRC Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 [quote name='White Knight' date='Aug 12 2004, 07:37 PM'] But see the Lord can "through" "prayer" can change someones heart, without us first confronting it, He can open a persons heart, without us even meeting or talking with the person, would you agree with that? Prayer works always, Always, its a very very powerful tool & weapon. [/quote] I know God can do what he wants. I was taught that by a priest. He said in confession, when i said i dont like to pray, that God will only work when you make the first move. He doesnt wanna be doing all the work for you. Maybe he was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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