Paladin D Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 I'm wondering myself, any resources I can read up on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 Bumpage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 I really consider them the same things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Aug 5 2004, 11:48 PM'] I really consider them the same things. [/quote] Maybe it's the way I grew up, spirit being the thing that goes to heaven, and your soul being your emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 I dunno if the CHurch approves of this or not. but Ive heard this before, right now I can't find any Scriptures to back it up dude. I'll look later. Body= Flesh Soul=Mind Spirit= Conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Well, the Church teaches that we are made up of a body and soul. The soul goes to Heaven, the body dies (but is resurrected). Our spirit can either be how we act or our soul, just depends on your definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 When someone describes the human person in terms of body, soul and spirit (this is called a tripartite anthropology) they usually mean something like: body (GK: soma) = material element soul (GK: psyche) = life principle or animating principle common with animals spirit (GK: pneuma or nous) = transcendent spiritual aspect which is particular to man (and that which is eternal) I'm being general here and I'm coming at it from the classical perspective. St. Paul uses a tripartite anthropology here and there in his letters, it was a common approach back then. These days we tend to think merely in terms of body and soul and some people would use spirit synonymously with soul or would equate it with the mind (this is reminiscent of cartesian dualism and the like). God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoken4byChrist Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 do animals have souls? i don't think so. never have. but if you look at it a different way... im asking the same question(what's the difference between soul and spirit)but maybe: humans and animals have souls but humans have a spirit, animals don't. our spirit is part of God's spirit in us. its the part that will go up to heaven and join (or re-join, if its a part of Him to begin with) with God. im not intirely sure. maybe ill do some more research since im not the only one wondering and then get back to you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 (edited) Actually, animals do have souls, sensate souls. They're just not immortal souls. Edited August 6, 2004 by qfnol31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Well some seem to think the Body in itself is a Trinity representer. Body, Soul, Spirit, Are ONE. Body Seperate, Soul Seperate, Spirit Seperate= 3 different things, yet one all attached together, until your deparature of the Soul from the Body. I wish I knew of scripture to see if this is true or not, or to try to back it up, but I have no evidence or links to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 All that I've posted come from Augustine (and Aristotle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 The body (soma), soul (psyche), spirit (pneuma) distinctions I gave above are in the bible (for example 1 Thessalonians), this tripartite anthropology was common in the ancient west, the Platonists, Neo-platonists, Stoics, etc.. used this terminology. Although there are always nuances to be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 [i]May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit (pneuma), soul (psyche) and body (soma) be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. [/i]- 1Thessalonians 5:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 LoL, but don't they sometimes use different words to say the same thing and drive in a point? In Sunday After Evening Prayer I, it says, "...you shall love the Lord, your God with all your heart, soul, and strength..." I always thought the heart was part of the soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 hehe, yeah, its all terminology. This isn't really a doctrinal issue. The common concept of soul today includes what was at one time distinguished as spirit. If you look at the etymology of words such as psyche, nous, pneuma, you discover that they have been used in synonymous ways throughout the history of the Greek language. The Church hasn't defined tripartite or bipartite anthropology and you will find both in the history of Catholic thought. It is the underlying concept of a transcendent aspect of the human person and his transcendent dignity that is important, not the various terminology so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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